Ngannou might be the first A-level athlete in the UFC HW division, but he is not the first A-level

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  1. cevo

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    There’s a lot more to being an athlete in MMA than just explosivness. As far as we know he could be C-level, because we haven’t seen him fight for 25 minutes. If he can’t deal with that, he’ll have to remove a lot of size and power.
     
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    That's fair. I'd say the main difference is the power though.
     
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    <Bottle.gif><Bottle.gif>ts is a can tho
     
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  4. Brood

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    Messi is NOT an A-level athlete (although Ronaldo definitely is). Messi has superb coordination and dribbling ability, but he has no spectacular physical gifts.
     
  5. Seven30

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    You do realize that the first example you listed is a former UFC HW Champion, right?
     
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    Romero is a legitimate freak athlete, one of the best in any sport in the world in his prime.

    Other great athletes which come to mind in the UFC would be GSP, Randleman, Bork, etc
     
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  7. Seven30

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    Exactly. Literally, the first example he posts contradicts the first sentence he writes. Brilliant.
     
  8. Merman

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    Why not? Most gymnastics people are.
     
  9. Merman

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    It's Brock...and he wasn't anything special in FB.
     
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    Randleman was a true freak of nature, remember him jumping when he entered the octagon and thinking he could clear big John if he wanted. RIP.
     
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    Seriously it would be nice to hear debates on serious topics without people stating things based solely on if they like a guy or not.
    Brock for all of his faults in MMA was an A-Level Athlete and any debate otherwise is just plain stupid.

    Debate if he was clean, debate if he was given a gift tryout for the NFL. But his accomplishments in Collegiate wrestling, his combine stats, his work in the WWE which by the way has many good athletes in it. And his accomplishments in MMA along with his obvious athletic ability which one can see after watching him perform in any of these arenas says otherwise. Seriously you see this over the top love for a fighter after a few fights were everyone acts like they are witnessing something that has never been seen or imagined in are lifetime.
     
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  12. originalbadguy

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    In most places around the world, the A-athletes play soccer. This is one of the reasons why they are much better at it then the USA. In the US most of the top athletes play other sports. That is changing, but still in most High Schools around the country the top athletes play the typical sports, football, basketball, Hockey and Baseball.

    Just because they aren't walking around with 30lbs of extra muscles doesn't mean they are not A-level.
     
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    2010 account who can't even understand sarcasm..

    Btw "wasn't anything special"

    Brock's stats a few weeks after a motorcycle accident :

    40y 4"65 , vert 35", broad jump 10ft0, bp 30 reps @ 225

    for reference JJ Watt's stats :

    40y 4"84 , vert 37", broad 10ft0, bp 34 reps.

    Aka similar numbers as one of the defensive linemen of league..

    He " wasn't anything special in footbal" l, but certainly not for athletics purposes ( but for lack of actual football playing).
    Didn't think I'd teach that to an american.
    You must be 14.
     
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    Thank God Soccer robbed us of all of the potential CTE inflicting juggernauts....<Lmaoo>
     
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    Lets see him have a 38" vertical like brock or run a 40 yard dash in like a half back or bench 225 43 fucking times as far as pure athlete goes brock blows this hype machine the fuck outta the water .
     
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    This francis hype is fucking stupid cantvwait for stipe to beat this guy so bandwagon fans stop saying stupid shit .
     
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    Francis is jumping a vertical at 38 " or long jump 10 feet or running a 40 yard dash at 4.6 at 295 lb or benching 225 43 fuckimg times get over it .
     
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    nah tere are top level black football players as well. Lukaku and Cisse for example. Btw Lukaku is fookin huge.
     
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    Randleman fought at HW and is a former UFC HW champion....
     
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