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Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Pancake Sprawl, Feb 12, 2018.
Oldie but goodie.
Forrest Griffin trains the Detroit Pistons. Basically says, they could be champ.
If he could ever make 265 he would gas faster than Ngannou.
Well I'd say that Randy who is an old wrestler (they all roided when he was in college) functioning at a high level in his 40s, close friends with busted roiders (Sonnen) and TRT users (Hendo), is as suspect as a pro wrestler. I'm 99% sure Couture was on TRT.
Don't feed the troll
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Old Fedor who was never an UFC champ. Same as Mittrione/Schaub/ who are the only recent NFL rejects that made waves in the UFC. Lesnar was a reject but one who made a career in wrestling.
Marcus Jones was an 'A Level' first round draft who played pro for six years and didn't get through TUF because he was knocked out by a reject... Schaub. By your logic Jones should have won TUF AND become UFC champ.
lol foh. Did you see what USADA did to the sport. MMA fans have no right to talk about other sport's steroid problems.
The thing is Brock Lesnar would turn his back like a novice when someone hit him hard. Some guys just don't react well to getting hit and it's something you can't train out of them because they aren't natural fighters. Lesnar is one of these people yet he still became HW champ.
That was in the 20th century, 18 years ago. You're not an A level you entire life. Nowadays he's a declined old man doing a niche sport for fun.
I was being hyperbolic, but yes. Facts. Or at least you can't EFFECTIVELY train for 10 hours per day. Or at least very few ppl can. Depends on what you qualify as falling under the umbrella of "training" I suppose.
Lol it's been a day, 400+ responses and this is still on the first page. The insecurity of MMA fans is hilarious. If Stipe were saying he'd be NFL MVP, it wouldn't garner a thread on most sports boards. But then, that would be nonsense, whereas this is completely realistic once Damon retires from football.
Love how this guy can trigger so many by uttering a few words.
If he's serious about fighting, he's already doing a good job of getting the word out. Maybe he'll fight that other guy from the NFL that has entered MMA.
A homeless gravel digger just took stipe 5 rounds. No doubt somebody who is athletic enough to play in the nfl could do better with some training. I’m talking prime she like 20-30 years old, give them a year of training and a warmup fight or two and stipe or any ufc hw would be a footnote.
Lesnar isn't an NFL reject.
He got a tryout despite never even playing football before and he was close to 30. Bork is just a goddamn freakish athlete.
And Tony Mandarich can KO Mike Tyson.
(High five if you get the reference)
He's good, but if I trained for it I'd be a much better NFL lineman than Damon Harrison.
See how easy that is?
Brock failings in other sports were caused by himself not any physical shortcomings
The Vikings wanted him to play guard...he refused cause he only wanted to play defense
Brock sucker at k1 cause he hates getting hit in the face
Basically he found his goldilocks fit with MMA
Regardless if he hadn't made it in mma either, the guy was an A level physical specimin...you really can't deny it
Were talking about a near 300 pound man who had a 4.6 second 40 yard dash, could bench press 225 pounds over 30 times and had a bigger vertical than kevin durant....I can count on 1 hand the number of guys that size I've seen put up numbers like that at the combine
Lesnar was an elite wrestler with elite athletic ability, just look at his stats in the NFL combine.
You're correct that HW as a division is garbage though.
Most of those guys would get subbed by Werdum or outwrestled by Stipe or Cormier if they didn't have a grappling background.
You can't get by on athleticism alone.
Maybe it more had to do with the fact Lesnar was about 100 pounds larger than Randy and 20 years younger than 50 year old Couture? The Lesnar being proof that A Level athletes can easily succeed in MMA was mercilessly debunked by Cain, who basically started training MMA around the same time and made Brock look like a helpless child, CM Punk level really. Fighting is so different than other sports and provides avenues where slow twitch stoners, like the Diaz brothers, can whip on A level athletes by implementing their game plan and being A level can be more a liability than a help.
I hate guys who talk shit knowing they have no intention of ever having to back it up.