Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Pancake Sprawl, Feb 12, 2018.
Fat fucks always do have the biggest mouths and the most hollow words
yeah i dont think so fatass
It's hilarious that some folk around here don't think he has a chance because of his gut.
Had he been shredded, they would sing a different tune, Ford Escort and all that.
They really really need to get rid of the stupid ass 265+ cap. It makes no sense and it's dated. HW means the best fighter in the world and you can't claim that if there's someone good at 300 pounds and doesn't get a chance.
A-level athlete, drink it in boys.
Cardio for days
No weight issues, disciplined eater
6 weeks to pick up the fundamental techniques and we've got the GOAT right here.
You can't train for 10 hours in a day mate. It's impossible.
His A level ass would run out of his A level gas within the first minute or so of fighting. Its usually guys who have never been in a real fight against someone who can really fight who make these kind if statements.
Maybe so, but most of these nfl/nba types can hold on to their money long enough for it to matter anyway, lol
A-level athletes battling Jay Glazer in the clinch.
But of course there would be some gems from these sports if given the proper training, I just think it wouldn't necessarily be the star players.
It's hilarious when football players call out UFC fighters when they know damn well they're never going to fight.
B**ch move IMO!
I know this is stupid of me, but I'll bite.
Randy was 44 years old, had just come out of retirement and was severely undersized as a HW.
That aside, let's say you're right, Lesnar beat him because Randy is a "C level athelete" and Brock is "B level".
What does that make Cain and Overeem, who completely embarassed him?
You're right. He still only had 3 fights. It was a bad look for the UFC and I still don't care about the HW division because of it. I admit I like it more now, but not much.
Lesnar was a good amateur wrestler. Also he was A level. His numbers are really close to JJ Watts so he is a better athlete than even most NFL guys
LOL he's an olympic silver medalist with multiple wins against olympic gold medalists, including Cael Sanderson, (who Sport Illustrated lists as one of the greatest college athletes of all time, btw).
It literally doesn't get more high-level than that.
You didn't answer my question
(and no, it wasn't debunked, everything I stated was a fact, lol)
Yep. It's funny...when Randy beat Tim Sylva and Gonzaga (two full-sized HWs) just before Brock he wasn't "severely undersized" or an old man. And when he lost to Big Nog (after the Lesnar fight), all of Sherdog was announcing the 2nd coming of Big Nog and what an impressive win it was. Only against Lesnar did Randy turn into a 60-year old WW.
Brock Lesnar became World champ within just 1 year and 3 fights after giving MMA a go when he failed to cut it in the NFL.
Guys like Brendan Schaub and Travis Browne, failed athletes from other sports who had no combat sports/martial arts experience prior to taking up MMA in their mid-twenties, became top contenders in the UFC within just a couple of years.
You've just seen a 30 odd year-old nightclub bouncer, new to the sport, who can't even throw 20 punches without gassing out, get hyped as the next big thing and given a title shot.
There are some good athletes in the lower weight classes but the heavyweights are very, very poor. It's real bottom of the barrel level stuff. Now I'm not saying that random NFL players could just waltz into MMA and beat anyone right off the bat, obviously they couldn't. But the idea that elite level athletes would need years and years of training to at least be able to compete in the HW division is clearly not true.
I get the impression that a lot of sherdoggers and MMA fans are like Joe Rogan in that they don't really watch much sport outside of MMA/UFC so they don't understand the true level of what it is they are watching. MMA heavyweights are sill much closer in talent and athleticism to guys from the early days like Tank Abbott than they are to top draw large athletes from other sports like football, basketball, boxing and rugby.
Let's see this guy weigh in under 265 first
There are probably a good hundred guys in the nfl that could be heavyweight champ with 8-12 months on training and a warmup fight or 2. The level of athlete is just different. Bigger, stronger, faster. Look at the nfl rejects who were taking out mma legends left and right even after they past their prime. Mitrione could barely sniff an nfl roster and just knocked out fedor recently.
Let's watch Miocic beat the hell out of Greg Hardy for reference. In the heavyweight division, anyone that stands and trades can be put away. Size, athleticism matters greatly in the ability to land. In the deep waters, you better be able to wrestle and take some kind of punch. Hard to teach someone how to take a punch, ask Lesnar.
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