NFL Discussion v 42: Mike Holmes is still a can

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  1. Hankooks

    Hankooks Stronger than you. Double Yellow Card Yellow Card Banned

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    How rich do you guys want these players to be? The 1st rounders already make more with their first contract than most members on sherdog will in their entire lives.

    I like watching football as much as the next guy but pro athletes seem to make more than enough already. Not to mention they blow it all and go bankrupt within a few years.

    Now you are encouraging them to go on strike for even more? That should help the already declining viewership I'm sure.
     
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    Some owners already have an issue paying players because they have no other revenue outside of their team. Liquid assets aren't just siting there. But yeah, I'm sure doubling the salary cap and fully guaranteeing contracts won't be a problem.
     
  3. PUO3

    PUO3 You are a can. Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    I bet you guys dont feel the same way about wanting to make more at your employer.
     
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    Dizzy \[T]/ Platinum Member

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    Why do you think your boss doesn't just pay you and everyone you work with double?
     
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    Revolver you sound poor Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Those poor owners can sell there team if they can't and make at least a billion.
     
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    Revolver you sound poor Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    If you made your boss a ton of money wouldn't you want more?
     
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    I guess the players can find another sport that pays them millions then.
     
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    Dizzy \[T]/ Platinum Member

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    The owners of my company make significantly more than I do. If they suddenly doubled everyone's salary I doubt I'd have a job much longer.
     
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    Revolver you sound poor Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Or just strike like other sports have done.
     
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    Revolver you sound poor Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    But you're small time and easily replaceable. If you directly contributed to your company making money you would want more.
     
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    Says the fucking accountant lol.
     
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    Revolver you sound poor Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    lmao @ this tacit concession.

    But if you want to go there, In my line of work the more money I make the business the more I get.
     
  13. Dizzy

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    The better you perform the more money you make? Almost like any other job?

    You're a rough couple of quarters away from the unemployment line. There's nothing about you that's irreplaceable, except your charm, of course.
     
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    Should NFL players make more given the revenue generated by the sport?

    Yes

    Should it be factored with the size of teams' rosters and the inherent injury concerns of the sport?

    Yes

    Its not an easy problem.
     
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    Funny that nobody has mentioned the cheerleaders. They literally lead the cheers in the stadium and they get nothing. They have a similar shelf life as well. Fucking disgraceful.
     
  16. Dizzy

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    Not at all. I'd be behind more in guarantees, definitely. Jacking up the cap isn't a feasible solution for most teams.
     
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    Dudaloni Gypsy Platinum Member

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    This sounds like a pretty good solution, but that money still counts against the cap, right? Even if spread out over the course of a contract that means GMs would need to be Affleck-tier savants [The Accountant] if theyre going to operate under the current cap situation
     
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    I have no idea.

    Do guaranteed contracts still count against an NBA team's salary cap when the player isn't on the roster?

    If so, I'd guarantee it wouldn't be long before everyone crying about how underpaid NFL players are would change their tune when they're still paying Carr's $150M for the next three seasons after he retires due to feels.
     
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    Revolver you sound poor Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    I didn't say perform, but regardless are NFL players easily replaceable? They currently receive somewhere between 46-48% of NFL revenue where NBA players receive 50-51%. I'm sure the owners can afford an extra point or two since the rising values of their team certainly makes up for the difference.
     
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    I'd be curious to see how that extra 2-3% is spread across a 53 man roster. Do the math, Revo.

    The rising team values means dick when it comes to paying players, spending money on facilities, equipment, and all the other overhead unless it's translating into liquid revenue, right?
     
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