NFL bans kneeling for anthem in 2018 season

[PHATV]

No one cares. Declining participation and viewership has almost everything to do with concussion syndrome. I live in Texas and parents talk about it and wanting their kids to play another sport.

BS. I know a number of people who walked away from season tickets and stopped going to or watching NFL football. A dozen, easy. That I know well. Not one of them cared about concussions at all. Never mentioned it, anyway. Said plenty about the kneeling, though.

 

[Quequeg]

Do it. I already did late in the season before last. Refused free tickets last season. Twice. They won't get me back with this. I hope everybody stops watching. Fuck 'em.

Good, that is your choice. With legalized sports betting the boycotts will have zero effect.

 

[bushman505]

^^^ yes!!!^^^

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Money isn't the only concern. And the owners are fined in order to force them to address in-house (and I guess we're already seeing one owner stand up for players).

Money is always the most major concern -- especially a in league where player revenue share is a big factor in salary generation. Outside of that, we have no evidence that this will force players from kneeling, or that the team can pass any fines onto the players -- the NFL and its teams has code of conduct that predominately fine the players (illegal hits, unsportmans like, curfew, etc) But this ruling, the owners of the team are dinged -- and to keep player morale up, im sure CFO's of 32 teams are now allotting "protesting" as expenditure line item in their forecast.

Revenue is down league wide, 47-9 percent of people are against kneeling -- what would you do to address that stream loss?

 

[PHATV]

Good, that is your choice. With legalized sports betting the boycotts will have zero effect.

I don't care what it does or doesn't do, as you said it's my choice and it's my only voice in the matter, so I'm out.
As are many others. And almost everyone has said they actually find more productive ways to spend what might have been considerable time dedicated to viewing/attending.
They are bleeding badly from this financially and it's not going to get better. Attendance, concessions, merchandise sales all suffering and it is really starting to hurt the NFL.
I freely admit I still played fantasy football last year and plan to this year. I've been in the same league since 1995, but I'm typically strong and last year was hard without having been watching. I did "OK", but...
If it can't be done, this will be my last year, I guess. I'm trying to play via stats alone and my eyes/watching games have/has always weighed heavily in my picks, so we'll see.

But if they fold, they fold. I'm good with that.

 

[AtomicPanther]

NFL believing what the media makes up. People don't really care if players kneel, the media just needs something 'controversial' to shove down our throats.

 

[Satsui Ryu]

THe Africa aids tweet was the dumbest shit ever. Lady goes to Africa to help, makes a joke, fat blue hair women attack her from the saferty of their sunken couches

I'm not sure about the details of this story so I will not comment. But it still does not negate the massive amounts of hypocrisy oozing from this thread. They don't care about free speech, they only care about their speech.

 

[cincymma79]

I'm not sure about the details of this story so I will not comment. But it still does not negate the massive amounts of hypocrisy oozing from this thread. They don't care about free speech, they only care about their speech.

The NFL is your employer a crowd of assholes is not

 

[Satsui Ryu]

The NFL is your employer a crowd of assholes is not

I think I will just stop because you are not even making sense.

 

[RockstarChris]

this is ridiculous i think all of these black people should have the right to get on their knees. i will be the guy standing

 

[helltoupee]

So workers can still kneel and owners have to pay the cost -- seems like a socialist win.

Well, owners regularly have their costs subsidized by the public, so you could say they've been playing the socialist game for a while now - until it comes to the profits of course.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Well, owners regularly have their costs subsidized by the public, so you could say they've been playing the socialist game for a while now - until it comes to the profits of course.

outside of stadiums, that bring in a ton of revenue like other infrastructure -- what gets subsidies? And revenue does go to the public in tax dollars.

 

[HereticBD]

As if right wingers don't complain about workplace censorship. Look at the James Damore incident, perfect example.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Google employee who wrote and disseminated a memo criticizing diversity practices. He got fired and many on the right decried it as an act of censorship.

 

[cincymma79]

I think I will just stop because you are not even making sense.

people showing up to scream at someone speech is just them shutting down someone else's speech. that is somebody trying to use their speech to silence someone else. if you have an argument against what the person says, argue your case.

you employer on the other hand sets the rules at your job

 

[cincymma79]

Google employee who wrote and disseminated a memo criticizing diversity practices. He got fired and many on the right decried it as an act of censorship.

left part of the story out

he was ASKED to write about the lecture they sat through, so he did. that's what he was fired for. what all in his actual memo you read did you agree with and provide in context quotes

 

[Mark Hunts FIST]

Republicans didn't force the owners to vote this way. The market did.

 

[HereticBD]

Google employee who wrote and disseminated a memo criticizing diversity practices. He got fired and many on the right decried it as an act of censorship.

Oh', that guy. IMO, it's up to Google. Much like how they police Youtube videos. They can do what they want. It's their company.

 

[Islam Imamate]

left part of the story out

he was ASKED to write about the lecture they sat through, so he did. that's what he was fired for. what all in his actual memo you read did you agree with and provide in context quotes

Thanks for that correction, didn't follow the story too closely.

Oh', that guy. IMO, it's up to Google. Much like how they police Youtube videos. They can do what they want. It's their company.

You feel that way but many on the right were up in arms over it.

 

[Satsui Ryu]

people showing up to scream at someone speech is just them shutting down someone else's speech. that is somebody trying to use their speech to silence someone else. if you have an argument against what the person says, argue your case.

you employer on the other hand sets the rules at your job

Are you paying attention? You're making this go in circles. I said we've discussed similar situations like this here where someone said something right wingers supported and was reprimanded by their employer and people here said it was impeding freedom of speech. Yet those same people are supporting the NFL in this case. That is hypocrisy.

For the record I think companies have a right to regulate anything that affects their ability to do business or generate revenue including speech.