New York Police Union Sues to Stop Release of Body Camera Videos

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NYPD Union wants all body cam footage blocked from any use without a court order after 2 fatal shootings

So much for full disclosure

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When a New York City police officer shoots a civilian, should the public see video of the shooting captured on police body cameras? Or should that footage be shielded the same way that performance evaluations and disciplinary actions are?

The issue is at the heart of a lawsuit filed on Tuesday in State Supreme Court in Manhattan by the city’s largest police union, the Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/09/nyregion/new-york-police-union-body-camera-lawsuit.html
 
Should be up to the citizens, not the police union. Do law enforcement people even civics?
 
Fawlty said:
Should be up to the citizens, not the police union. Do law enforcement people even civics?
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They're literally above the law the citizens are held to. Why would they give that up?
 
I hope some of the guys that blindly fight against accountability for police officer officers can see that this is messed up. Why don't police want you to see how they are treating your fellow citizens? That is our property, that footage belongs to the taxpayers.
 
Cops with body cams is good for everyone. Keeps the story straight when someone says they were unjustly slammed to the ground or something (Michael Bennet looked a fool after cops released vid of what actually happened at the casino when he ran, and this would have been great to have for Mike Brown)

And shows what the fuck happened in cases of when the cop fucks up royally and they can’t cover it up

It’s a win win for everyone. Well, everyone except lying criminals and dirty cops

Very shady on nyc police union and they deserve all the bad press they get for this
 
mr.bigglesworth said:
They're literally above the law the citizens are held to. Why would they give that up?
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No shit. They should have to go to court and give them a good reason for suppressing footage case-by-case, not the other way around. We pretty much all agreed to this, and it was a cultural victory for cops and citizens. This Lynch prick is always trying to pull some kind of garbage though. His legalized bribery system is pretty extensive too.
 
You'd think releasing footage would be a good thing.
 
Have to disagree with them. It's a recording of the police doing their job. The subject matter of the video takes place in full view of the public so there's no reason to later make it private. In many ways, it is similar to police reports - a recording of some interaction between the police and the public - and those are public record.

Additionally, the public good is advanced by making the videos public record. The public has every right to view the way their police engage with the public (as noted earlier - these engagements happen in the open in the first place) and, as public servants, I can't think of a compelling police need for keeping them private.
 
NYPD is very corrupt..I know 13 different cops on the job and almost all of them have had to compromise their morals to keep their job.. The other 2 are just lying

Any cop who tries to do their job without fudging a report or violating someone's rights gets branded a rat or a goody two shoes and no one wants to work with them or they get transferred to shit details

 
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Look at all the Police Haters out in force in this thread!

Isn't the above sentiment usually levied against critics of Law enforcement and those who want Police accountability.
 
It should only be available to courts, defendants, and prosecutors. Body cam footage is evidence like any other evidence. If evidence is released, it has to go through some procedure.
 
MadSquabbles500 said:
It should only be available to courts, defendants, and prosecutors. Body cam footage is evidence like any other evidence. If evidence is released, it has to go through some procedure.
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No. Read what @panamaican wrote. It's not much different than a police report. In fact, body cams ought to go into the same file cabinet as police reports.

Also when you delay the release of bodycam footage it gives one party or the other a chance to control the narrative to the public.
 
panamaican said:
Have to disagree with them. It's a recording of the police doing their job. The subject matter of the video takes place in full view of the public so there's no reason to later make it private. In many ways, it is similar to police reports - a recording of some interaction between the police and the public - and those are public record.

Additionally, the public good is advanced by making the videos public record. The public has every right to view the way their police engage with the public (as noted earlier - these engagements happen in the open in the first place) and, as public servants, I can't think of a compelling police need for keeping them private.
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Well, should the security cameras in hotels and public places be made available to the public???

The purpose of body cams is to provide evidence for a court case. The body cams are not to show the public and never have been.
So, if this is to be used for evidence in court, should we show all evidence to be used in court to the public? Should we put video of police interviewing suspect on youtube?
Should we release tapes of Lake and Ng murders to the general public???

It is silly to say this should be make available to the public.

mr.bigglesworth said:
No. Read what @panamaican wrote. It's not much different than a police report. In fact, body cams ought to go into the same file cabinet as police reports.
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It does not mean shit that it gets taken in public. I understand he feels like that means something, but it doesn't. It is to be used as evidence. plain and simple.

It is not there to record cops doing their job. It is there to be used for evidence.

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Wearable cameras are often utilized by law enforcement to record their interactions with the public or gather video evidence at crime scenes. It has been known to increase both officer and citizen accountability, although arguments have been made that BWVs primarily protect police.[2] Parking inspectors in particular areas also wear these devices to capture an assault or offense. BWVs are notable because of their placement, often on the front of a shirt, provides a first-person perspective and a complete chain of evidence. BWV is a form of closed-circuit television.
 
Hilarious hypocrisy from a profession that often preaches, “if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.”
 
They work for us. We deserve to know. The good cops want this all public.
 
mr.bigglesworth said:
No. Read what @panamaican wrote. It's not much different than a police report. In fact, body cams ought to go into the same file cabinet as police reports.

Also when you delay the release of bodycam footage it gives one party or the other a chance to control the narrative to the public.
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Arent police reports hidden from public until after something else happens?
 
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