Nakamura - Sink Or Swim? | Page 9

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  1. warriorscomeout Silver Belt

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    Which I think proves my point about strong style not in itself being a problem. AJ and Nak are exactly the same age as Jeff. Nak was fighting Brock in Japan while Jeff was jumping off ladders in the US.
     
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    LOL.

    Oh', do explain how Daniel Bryan's favorite wrestler isn't simply discussing basic ring psychology. Sorry bud, but all that stuff about where the match begins, builds and ends isn't anything special.

    Strong Style is widely recognized as a worked shoot, that incorporates martial arts maneuvers, and the words of Daniel Bryan's favorite wrestler doesn't change that. Now, I'm sure to some, "Strong Style" is a way of life that transcends mere definitions maaan, but to everyone else, it's idiots in the ring stiffing the shit out of each other.
     
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    https://storify.com/reasonjp/yuji-nagata-on-shibata-never-strong-style

    Here is the transcript.

    If you go by Tanahashi it's working stiff, along with Nagata's explanation.

    http://yottsumepuroresu.blogspot.com/2014/05/njpw-hiroshi-tanahashi-talks-about.html

    Sourced and Tana says it's a meme. It's not anything. So we have two guys who were at the top of the food chain who don't refer to it as a worked shoot.

    You just have your stupid opinion.
     
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    Worked shoot, working stiff....

    Whatever the fuck you want to call it. Strong Style is when two guys beat the ever living piss out of each other for real, in a pro-wrestling match.

    It's not an opinion. It's the widely accepted definition of the style.

    You can go now.
     
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    Working stiff is not the same as a worked shoot.

    I don't care what you think is widely accepted by you and a bunch of plebs on the internet. I have indisputable words from the guys who work and were top guys in their respected craft. One of them rejected the idea the other whole heartedly accepted it.

    Take a bump, lift some weights, hit the showers, and get a clue.
     
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    It essentially is. The term "worked shoot" is a bit of an oxymoron anyways.

    So it clearly is disputable then.

    Regardless, all Nagata was doing was talking about ring psychology, and trying to make it sound unique to "strong style". Putting lipstick on a pig, if you will.

    When's your next match?
     
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    Next month
     
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    Cool. Upload it, so I may judge you.
     
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    Big Nak making chicken salad out of chicken shit.
     
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    You know you're describing Shoot Style right?

    BH is absolutely right, Strong Style isn't just working stiff and it's damn sure not simulating a shoot. Watch UWFi to see what shoot style actually looks like, and note the differences. One is representing wrestling as a structured martial art with varied techniques incorporated from real fighting styles, and the other is literally simulating a fight. They don't even look the same.

    And aside from that, current day NJPW doesn't even to adhere to the Strong Style philosophy with the exception of some of the guys that have been around the block. They're basically running King's Road matches these days, just like Baba's AJPW. Come on son.
     
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    And yet, Nakamura is known as the "King Of Strong Style", and his matches are of the "shoot style" you describe.

    Look, I'm not going to get into some nerdy metalhead type discussion, where we discuss the minute intricacies of two nearly identical styles. Literally nobody cares. Nak is known for "strong style" and strong style is gay.

    Didn't some guy just headbutt himself into retirement in NJPW?

    Anyways, who cares? Let's talk more about how Nak sucks, and is going nowhere in the WWE.
     
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    Sorry dude, this post is an abortion on multiple different levels. Jeez.

    How you can call Nakamura shoot style is beyond me. Just false.

    How you can also not know that Shibata is "one of those guys whose been around the block" just serves to indicate that on this topic, you're way out of your depth. We should stop talking about it.
     
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    Or I'm just not going around in circles again with you, like I did with BH. Even he eventually said the terms were disputable by folks in the biz. Whatever though. I don't really care.

    We're getting off the point here though. The point being is that Nak sucks and his "strong/shoot/spaghetti/whatever the fuck style you want to say he is known for, is terrible.
     
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    We already had a PWD poll for this, you loooooost. Let it goooooooooo.
     
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    Cena wins.
     
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    :)
     
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