Muslim Man Praised for Stopping Teenage Fight

[Goonerview]

10% is not a vast majority. Try again.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-mu...0-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america/5333619

I'm talking about global terrorism. And don't worry, should the Muslim populaion of the USA grow to 10%, there will be a LOT more terrorist attacks.

If Muslims are so nice and valuable to the societies they migrate to.

Then why the Turkish leader using Muslim immigrants as a weapon and holding the EU hostage?

Why are the Chinese are trying to phase them out of their country?

Muslims take more than they give.

 

[Fawlty]

muslims dont like even 1on1 fights.
they would rather jump 1 weak person or even more if it is a female person.
they also like to blow up among innocent civilians..

Two other versions of this "othering" that are or have been common:

Black people dont like even 1on1 fights.
they would rather jump 1 weak person or even more if it is a female person.
they also like to shoot/rob/knockout game innocent bystanders.

Rich people dont like even 1on1 fights.
they would rather jump 1 weak person or even more if it is a female person.
they also like to start fights with innocent citizens knowing their daddies will bail them out.


etc, etc.


It often starts with the "other" being too cowardly to fight one-on-one, which is symbolic of saying that a people have no honor or personal integrity.

 

[P4p Islam]

Get back to us when you have a video of a Muslim dude talking other Muslims out of murdering innocent people.

I am baffled as to why shertards think only people of the muslim faith commit murder.

 

[PrideisRizin]

Loon watch is quoted at least 3 times as a source. I'm done with this garbage don't have the time or patience to deal with fools. If you think someone needs to be praised and there religion stated and known over something as simple as this it shows what and how you think specifically about defending Muslims a lot more then you seem to realize.

 

[P4p Islam]

I'm talking about global terrorism. And don't worry, should the Muslim populaion of the USA grow to 10%, there will be a LOT more terrorist attacks.

If Muslims are so nice and valuable to the societies they migrate to.

Then why the Turkish leader using Muslim immigrants as a weapon and holding the EU hostage?

Why are the Chinese are trying to phase them out of their country?

Muslims take more than they give.

Christians are even worse. Worldwide violence is 50x more prevalent among Christians.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/8718000

 

[Fawlty]

Loon watch is quoted at least 3 times as a source. I'm done with this garbage don't have the time or patience to deal with fools. If you think someone needs to be praised and there religion stated and known over something as simple as this it shows what and how you think specifically about defending Muslims a lot more then you seem to realize.

It's not just about over-defending Muslims, though that happens. It's about spreading exemplary attitudes and behaviors that come from Muslims. It's also a response to stereotypes and the attention that negative stories get. One of the positive things we can do, psychologically as a society, is to create a cognitive dissonance in bigots and their targets. They can't help but notice the conflict between their worldview and the example. The other side of that coin is the threat of charlatans taking advantage of that effect for their own purposes. People, in my experience, tend to overestimate the strength of the charlatan effect, underestimate the positive effect, and generally resist challenges to their cultural biases. That doesn't mean we shouldn't push back against those things though.

 

[Konster]

Kind of a non-story don't you think? I mean seriously, two teenagers fighting? Who da fook cares?

You just don't understand bro, this one incident is supposed to outweigh all the attacks happening in Europe.

 

[tramendous]

Quran (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."

“Allah does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you due to your faith or driven you out of your homes. Allah loves those who deal justly. Allah only forbids you from those people that fought you because of your faith, drove you out of your homes and helped in your expulsion, that you take them as intimate associates. And whosoever takes them as intimate associates, then it is they who are the wrongdoers.” [al-Quran, 60:8-9]

God only forbids you to turn in friendship towards such as fight against you because of [your] faith, and drive you forth from your homelands, or aid [others] in driving you forth: and as for those [from among you] who turn towards them in friendship; it is they, they who are truly wrongdoers! (Quran 60:9)

if you look further into the context of 5:51, the word used that is often translated as 'friend' is the arabic word wali. it does not mean a casual friend, pal, buddy or acquaintance but something closer to guardian or someone that would basically be next of family. although a wali can also be a friend, not all friends are wali. Allah is considered the foremost wali of muslims.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Then why the Turkish leader using Muslim immigrants as a weapon and holding the EU hostage?

They're not immigrants in that case, those are refugees. Turkey is "holding the EU hostage" because guess what, the refugees are a problem for Turkey as well because any massive refugee inflow can cause serious problems.

Why are the Chinese are trying to phase them out of their country?

Lol, yeah the Chinese are a real paragon of just governance.

"If freedom of speech/human rights/clean air is so valuable then why do the Chinese not have it?"

^That's how fucking dumb you sound.

 

[Goonerview]

They're not immigrants in that case, those are refugees. Turkey is "holding the EU hostage" because guess what, the refugees are a problem for Turkey as well because any massive refugee inflow can cause serious problems.

Lol, yeah the Chinese are a real paragon of just governance.

"If freedom of speech/human rights/clean air is so valuable then why do the Chinese not have it?"

^That's how fucking dumb you sound.

They stop becoming refugees the moment they leave their country. They legally become migrants.

 

[P4p Islam]

It's not just about over-defending Muslims, though that happens. It's about spreading exemplary attitudes and behaviors that come from Muslims. It's also a response to stereotypes and the attention that negative stories get. One of the positive things we can do, psychologically as a society, is to create a cognitive dissonance in bigots and their targets. They can't help but notice the conflict between their worldview and the example. The other side of that coin is the threat of charlatans taking advantage of that effect for their own purposes. People, in my experience, tend to overestimate the strength of the charlatan effect, underestimate the positive effect, and generally resist challenges to their cultural biases. That doesn't mean we shouldn't push back against those things though.

Very well said. The problem with society these days is overassociation. People see terror attacks from middle eastern people, and jump to the conclusion that all followers of a middle eastern religion, whether it be islam/muslim/etc, are all freedom hating jihadi terrorists that want to blow up America.


Our president seems to feel compelled to further those fear mongering stereotypes by holding rallies talking about how we need to keep anybody who follows the muslim religion out of our country.

 

[Fawlty]

Very well said. The problem with society these days is overassociation. People see terror attacks from middle eastern people, and jump to the conclusion that all followers of a middle eastern religion, whether it be islam/muslim/etc, are all freedom hating jihadi terrorists that want to blow up America.


Our president seems to feel compelled to further those fear mongering stereotypes by holding rallies talking about how we need to keep anybody who follows the muslim religion out of our country.

They would argue that they know there's a difference so they aren't really stereotyping. We can see that they think they are above their own prejudice because of the disdain they have for "not all Muslims." So they're aware of the concept intellectually, but still go ahead with the tribal behavior anyway, knowing they are wrong but covering up their wrongness with "righteous" anger, claiming their ignorance as a virtue. Sad!

 

[Islam Imamate]

They stop becoming refugees the moment they leave their country. They legally become migrants.

They legally become migrants? According to what law? Here's the definition of a refugee according to the amended 1951 Convention on refugees UN High Commissioner for Refugees

A refugee is any person who “owing to well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality and is unable, or owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country; or who, not having a nationality and being outside the country of his former habitual residence as a result of such events, is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to return to it”.

And here's an expanded definition recognized by the UNHCR

In addition to individuals who meet the criteria in the 1951 Convention definition, UNHCR recognizes as refugees persons who are outside their country of nationality or habitual residence and unable to return there owing to serious and indiscriminate threats to life, physical integrity or freedom resulting from generalized violence or events seriously disturbing public order.

And here's what they say about the cessation of refugee status

Additionally, both the 1951 Convention and the UNHCR Statute provide for so-called “cessation clauses”, or situations where refugee status ceases, generally because the refugees have found a durable solution or because the events that led refugees to leave their countries of origin have ceased to exist.

And later on adds

Exclusion under Article 1E means that an individual who fulfils the criteria for inclusion under Article 1A (2) of the 1951 Convention cannot benefit from refugee status because he or she is not in need of international protection. This provision applies to persons who do not require protection because they already enjoy a status which, possibly with limited exceptions, corresponds to that of nationals.

http://www.unhcr.org/46f7c0ee2.pdf

The Syrian Civil War is still ongoing and there's no reason to think every single one of the 2 million refugees in Turkey has found a durable solution since many have not been resettled and do not have a status that corresponds to that of a Turkish national.

 

[P4p Islam]

They would argue that they know there's a difference so they aren't really stereotyping. We can see that they think they are above their own prejudice because of the disdain they have for "not all Muslims." So they're aware of the concept intellectually, but still go ahead with the tribal behavior anyway, knowing they are wrong but covering up their wrongness with "righteous" anger, claiming their ignorance as a virtue. Sad!

Very bigly sad!

 

[P4p Islam]

They legally become migrants? According to what law? Here's the definition of a refugee according to the amended 1951 Convention on refugees UN High Commissioner for Refugees

And here's an expanded definition recognized by the UNHCR

And here's what they say about the cessation of refugee status

And later on adds

http://www.unhcr.org/46f7c0ee2.pdf

The Syrian Civil War is still ongoing and there's no reason to think every single one of the 2 million refugees in Turkey has found a durable solution since many have not been resettled and do not have a status that corresponds to that of a Turkish national.

Goonreview just got bludgeoned 6 days from sunday itt....

 

[AGGAMEMNON66]

I am baffled as to why shertards think only people of the muslim faith commit murder.

This thread isn't about everyone else.

 

[Was Exiled]

Is that the one in Atlanta? video is so fucking fake lol

 

[P4p Islam]

This thread isn't about everyone else.

Wat

 

[AGGAMEMNON66]

Wat

 

[Leagon]

Get back to us when you have a video of a Muslim dude talking other Muslims out of murdering innocent people.

Are you being serious? There's a lot of footage from the war against the Islamic State right now. You can find it on Youtube.

But I don't really see what any of that would have to do with this one Muslim guy doing a nice thing.