Murders in US very concentrated: 54% of US counties in 2014 had zero murders

[Dirt Road Soldier]

My county went just under 20 years without a murder of any sort. The last firearm related homicide was all the way back in the mid-70s till early last year when some tweaker assholes gunned down an old farmer and his wife while robbing them. The local police had to call in help from other counties because they flat out didn't know the procedures for it because it never happens here.

 

[Neph]

The effect of gun ownership rates on homicide rates: a state-level analysis

Mark Gius
Pages 1687-1690 | Published online: 19 Feb 2008
Abstract
The purpose of the present study is to examine the link between gun ownership rates and homicide rates. Using a very large cross-sectional survey dataset in order to obtain estimates for household-level gun ownership rates, and state-level data on homicides, the results indicate that gun ownership rates have a statistically significant and positive effect on the homicide rates at the 10% significance level. This result suggests that efforts to restrict access to firearms may reduce murders.

 

[Bald1]

Moore and Bergner Justice Policy Journal, Spring 2016

The Relationship between Firearm Ownership and Violent Crime

http://www.cjcj.org/uploads/cjcj/documents/jpj_firearm_ownership.pdf

Abstract Criminologists and other researchers have attempted to understand whether there is a connection between firearm prevalence and crime. Some experts have argued that prevalence of firearms increases crime, while others have argued it reduces crime. The purpose of this study was to further investigate and clarify this relationship. The current analysis used suicide by firearm as a proxy for firearm ownership. Examining violent crime, homicide, rape, robbery, and assault for 1,997 counties in the United States, the findings indicate that increased prevalence of firearms was associated with increased violent crime, homicide, rape, robbery, and assault. The results of this study suggest that a decrease in prevalence of firearms has the potential to decrease violent crime in the United States.

Does prevalence equal legal ownership, or just what it actually means? Sorry, won't get a chance to read the article for a while, but am genuinely curious.

 

[Neph]

I'm just shocked at how so many studies seem to conclude that firearms are so heavily correlated with violence. The list goes on and on and on.

It's almost like the statistic that you are 25x more likely to be shot in the US than other developed nations, or about 16x more likely to be a victim of homicide regardless of method (guns or otherwise), is related to this.

How many times must the elephant in the room be ignored.

 

[Magooglie]

lol @ 54% of US counties having only 11% of the population.

In 89% of the places the US population lives someone got murdered.

 

[Neph]

Okay those numbers are great and all but what about black people though.

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/n...-because-your-classmates-died.3732371/page-38

There's a Harvard study I quoted in this thread that does a regression analysis in considering homicides and suicides v cooling off periods / wait times. It controlled for a vast number of factors that can change over time including alcohol consumption, poverty, income, urbanisation, black community and age groups.

No surprise in the result. 17% reduction in homicide (with no statistically significant substitution effect) and 6% reduction in suicide (partial substitution effect in play).

 

[tonni]

There's a Harvard study

Commies. Next.

 

[Teppodama]

So half of the counties in the US had murders in them. That's not good.

The map looks suspiciously similar to a population density map which is also of no surprise. Small rural county = low population = less likely to have murders.

Put a cap on population density of any given city, county, state. If you can't play well with others, we're just gonna to enforce a time out on you all and separate you till you can behave better.

 

[MacGregor]

How many disappearances occurred in 2014? How many gun related deaths are gang/cartel related? Is it wise to disarm Americans close to Mexico?

 

[Neph]

https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2014/01/111286/access-guns-increases-risk-suicide-homicide

Meta-analysis concurs with the following comment which is particularly troubling for those who suggest firearms protect women

Researchers found striking gender differences in the data. When firearms were accessible, men were nearly four times more likely to commit suicide than when firearms were not accessible, while women were almost three times more likely to be victims of homicide.

 

[ShoelessRye]

Look at a population density map and then rethink your thread.

 

[panamaican]

lol @ 54% of US counties having only 11% of the population.

In 89% of the places the US population lives someone got murdered.

That strikes me as incredibly relevant. Population density and firearm prevalence are positively correlated with gun violence. I don't even know why anyone genuinely interested in the subject would disregard those things.

 

[jimmas99]

Is this not true for most countries in the west? In sweden murders are also very consetrated to areas with alot of people in them. The small cities are murder free

 

[Squarechoke]

Wow, what a revelation that counties with, relatively speaking, barely any people have no murders. That really has to be a US specific trend and not at all the obvious norm.

 

[bobgeese]

It’s almost like democrats can’t control themselves...

 

[DespicablePeep]

Wow, what a revelation that counties with, relatively speaking, barely any people have no murders. That really has to be a US specific trend and not at all the obvious norm.

even in violent counties the violence was restricted to certain areas. Crime and homicide is rampant among a minority of the population, which I'm sure are against second amendment

 

[Jkillah]

Eliminating government housing inside of cities would probably do a lot to reduce violent crime because there would be lower concentrations of poor people.

 

[Son of Jamin]

Is this not true for most countries in the west? In sweden murders are also very consetrated to areas with alot of people in them. The small cities are murder free

True but the homicides are concentrated within certain areas of those counties as well.

 

[Neph]

Eliminating government housing inside of cities would probably do a lot to reduce violent crime because there would be lower concentrations of poor people.

Where do you think these people will go and what do you think they will do if they have no home?

Hint: Probably turn to crime.

 

[oldshadow]

More criminal in a smaller area means more crime.

It's not the gun it's the criminal and the concentration of them.

Can you reduce gun violence by removing all guns? Well no shit you can. You can reduce knife violence by removing all knives.

These area also have the highest rates of drunk driving deaths. You can stop all the drunk driving deaths by removing all cars, truck and anything you can drive.

As far as suicides the same goes. Remove guns no suicides by gun. Remove all drugs and make everyone go to a clinic to get there daily drugs no drug suicides. Then register all rope by the foot and reduce suicide by hanging. And on down the list.