Muay thai belt system

Discussion in 'Standup Technique' started by thesnowman, Jan 30, 2012.

  1. nomilkforsanta

    nomilkforsanta Nathan

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2006
    Messages:
    4,705
    Likes Received:
    23
    Location:
    Silicon Valley, California
    /this


    Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums (origin - a website about sport fighting)
    Training Discussion (node 1 - training for sport fighting)
    Standup Technique (node 2 - standing training for sport fighting)
    Muay thai belt system (node 3 - asking why there are no belts in sport thai fighting)


    Haha, I almost got banned when they put up the "weapons and tactics" sub-forum, why the hell does a MMA website need a sub-forum about weapons...
     
  2. Harukaze

    Harukaze Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2012
    Messages:
    4,391
    Likes Received:
    103
    Location:
    ( ͡°_> ͡°)
    Sport shooting and fencing, kendo, etc. :icon_lol:
     
  3. nomilkforsanta

    nomilkforsanta Nathan

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2006
    Messages:
    4,705
    Likes Received:
    23
    Location:
    Silicon Valley, California
    Wow, I am an idiot! I never though of that... :redface:

    However, you know that the forum has almost nothing to do with sport weapon usage. I always see "what shotgun should I use to protect my bedroom", "what knife do you carry every day"...
     
  4. Harukaze

    Harukaze Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2012
    Messages:
    4,391
    Likes Received:
    103
    Location:
    ( ͡°_> ͡°)
    Yeah, I was just joking and being sarcastic in light of what that subforum really discusses on a day-to-day basis haha.

    Maybe I'll go and ask about which shinai is best to see how riled up they get (or to see how badly I'm ignored). :icon_chee
     
  5. Lucas Coradini

    Lucas Coradini Blue Belt Professional Fighter

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2009
    Messages:
    552
    Likes Received:
    171
    Location:
    Porto Alegre, RS, Brasil
    Since this thread got ressurected, I would like to ask what you guys think of the AITMA?

    Since its a Thai org who employs a grading system similar to other martial arts belts...

    http://www.aitma.de/curriculum_muaythai.htm

    ps.: this is the site of the European coordinator office, but it is based in Thailand
     
  6. Paradigm

    Paradigm Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2009
    Messages:
    17,254
    Likes Received:
    8,422
    Location:
    LA
    never heard of it. this sounds dirty though:

    http://www.aitma.de/aitma_muayerobic.htm

    [​IMG]
     
  7. Pearse Shields

    Pearse Shields Amateur Fighter

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2011
    Messages:
    2,376
    Likes Received:
    6
    Can't say I like the looks of it.
     
  8. nomilkforsanta

    nomilkforsanta Nathan

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2006
    Messages:
    4,705
    Likes Received:
    23
    Location:
    Silicon Valley, California
    It is a muay boran school that does some Muay Thai. This is similar to what Chinese do, to be a Chinese national wushu hero, you need forms and sparring.
     
  9. Edison Carasio

    Edison Carasio Excellence of execution belt Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2007
    Messages:
    21,794
    Likes Received:
    46,782
    I once started a nunchaku thread and boy were the jimmies rustled.
     
  10. Harukaze

    Harukaze Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2012
    Messages:
    4,391
    Likes Received:
    103
    Location:
    ( ͡°_> ͡°)
    HAHAHA, not surprised at all... :icon_lol:
     
  11. DaGenius

    DaGenius Silver Belt

    Joined:
    May 25, 2008
    Messages:
    10,612
    Likes Received:
    1,715
    Thanks for bringing this up. I was unaware..

    That said, Belts dont exist in muay thai. You just train and learn and keep getting better.
     
  12. Edison Carasio

    Edison Carasio Excellence of execution belt Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2007
    Messages:
    21,794
    Likes Received:
    46,782
    With all this talk about an art that traditionally had not belt ranking system, I wonder how many instructors are out there teaching an art like TKD or Karate but NOT using the belt system or even the gi? Hell, even Daniel-san didn't get his rank until he went to compete and Mr. Miyagi was like "black belt BIOTCH!"
     
  13. kenpeters8

    kenpeters8 Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2012
    Messages:
    1,710
    Likes Received:
    548
    There's no ranking system in Muay Thai whatsoever. Period. Go to Thailand and see for yourself if you don't believe me. Any Muay Thai schools that's not in Thailand that does that shit is clearly a mcdojo.
     
  14. DivineComedy

    DivineComedy Green Belt

    Joined:
    May 7, 2011
    Messages:
    984
    Likes Received:
    3
    That's a bit harsh and overgeneralizing isn't it? No, there isn't a belt system traditionally. As long as they aren't charging for the belts or testing or award ceremonies, I see no harm if its clear that its only to give a student a general baseline compared to whats expected of them. Would it be recognized elsewhere? No, but it's not used to compare yourself to others outside of gym. It's not different than a beginner, immediate, advanced, and pro class separations. It's not clearly one way or another because for one you haven't been to every muay thai school with belts in the entire world. Don't just label every mt school with belts a mcdojo when mcdojo's aim is to take as much money as possible from their customers.

    I think belts are unnecessary for Muay Thai as it is for Boxing or Wrestling because of how the system in place already works. No need to add more.
     
  15. mammothreis

    mammothreis Orange Belt

    Joined:
    May 8, 2012
    Messages:
    350
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Winnipeg
    hahaha. Epic
     
  16. Ckwilas

    Ckwilas White Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2010
    Messages:
    120
    Likes Received:
    0
    The gym I go to has colored arm bands with the school name on them. When they have "grade-ups" or a test is when you "rank up". They rank different depending on what your goals are: training just for fitness, or if you want to become a "competitive athlete" or fighter.

    We have timed mile runs, 2 minute drills for qty of speed punches, speed kicks etc. They use them as a fitness goal for students just for the fitness. Competitive athletes are also watched a lot more closely on form and techniques as well as beating own personal records. I kind of like the system actually.

    When you get a green arm band, your eligible to start learning how to spar etc. Its a good gauge to see where ppl are at in the gym....or the one I belong to at least.

    It gives a student plenty of time to learn the techniques, condition before they get into sparring. It prevents the new students for coming in and sparring with somebody after 5 classes getting their butts kicked in.
     
  17. eneck

    eneck White Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2015
    Messages:
    91
    Likes Received:
    12
    Muay Thai Levels of Proficiency
    There is an international muay thai grading system that is accepted worldwide.


    This system is as follows:
    MUAY THAI LEVELS OF PROFICIENCY



    Untitled-1.png.580508b012b1ae7e1e8074c640d4d4c2.png
     
    Last edited: Aug 31, 2018
  18. freaky

    freaky Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2015
    Messages:
    6,326
    Likes Received:
    5,516
    Location:
    Inside Sherdog
    lol so u go from beginner to instructor. Like 11 levels of beginner to an instructor to a teacher to a master. How you know what level you are? I'm in a gym with no belt system.
     
  19. MuayThaiDude

    MuayThaiDude Yellow Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2015
    Messages:
    193
    Likes Received:
    19
    My first MT school was a fight school. It had 4 non-official levels; you were viewed as one of them.
    1. beginner
    2. fought in a smoker
    3. fought in amateurs
    4. fought as a pro

    One place I've seen people go literally batshit over belts is BJJ. I never trained in BJJ so I can't speak on it intelligibly. But it kind of reminds me of people pulling rank when I as in the military. I once had some douche who was a rank higher than me tell me during a disagreement, "Um, I think you need to remember you are talking to." haha, ok hoss.
     
  20. j123

    j123 Pro Sherdogger 500-0-1

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2013
    Messages:
    13,483
    Likes Received:
    14,349
    Location:
    Let me bang mang
    Argument gets even crazier when a lower ranked competitive practitioner can equal a higher ranked hobbyist (competitive blue to hobbyist purple). That idea still rustles some old school practitioners.
     

Share This Page