Most Overrated "Great" Movies

[TrueBias]

Most of you are mentioning widely accepted loved movies.

Donnie Darko, Drive, these are overrated.

 

[Tycho- Taylor's Version]

For Fincher, Se7en and Gone Girl are certainly better than Fight Club.

I'm always surprised to see Fight Club near the top of people's lists. It was a solid adaptation that really captured the spirit of the book, but I also prefer those other two as films.

That said it saddens me that so many people feel the urge to shit on The Departed.

 

[Trotsky]

12 years a slave. long drawn out fucking boring movie. I get it slavery sucks wrap it the fuck up.

I mean, it wasn't meant to be a blink-of-an-eye thrill ride. It was supposed to embody the spirit of slavery: long, excruciating monotony -- generations of people being born, living everyday of their lives, and eventually dying without ever having a say in the process. People tend to conceptualize history as a series of events, not as long lifetimes of peoples holding other peoples' faces in the mud.

Get Out: according the the reviewers it was AMAZING. Sucked donkey dick.

And I don't know how to help you on this one. I thought it was pretty darn good.

 

[elreece]

I mean, it wasn't meant to be a blink-of-an-eye thrill ride. It was supposed to embody the spirit of slavery: long, excruciating monotony -- generations of people being born, living everyday of their lives, and eventually dying without ever having a say in the process. People tend to conceptualize history as a series of events, not as long lifetimes of peoples holding other peoples' faces in the mud.



And I don't know how to help you on this one. I thought it was pretty darn good.

I get what they were trying to do with 12 years a slave I just didnt like it. Amistad is a much better movie as was the series Roots (Great epic film).

An really you liked Get Out? Why it was boring and just didnt really go anywhere?

 

[Trotsky]

I get what they were trying to do with 12 years a slave I just didnt like it. Amistad is a much better movie as was the series Roots (Great epic film).

I actually never saw Amistad. I read a book about the story when I was younger, and it had the movie on the cover, but I don't think it was an adaption of the movie or anything.

An really you liked Get Out? Why it was boring and just didnt really go anywhere?

Haha, yeah, I really can't relate to that experience at all. I thought it was fast paced, fresh, and that it climaxed to a very entertaining and satisfying ending. I also thought it was the second funniest movie of the year as well (after Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, which dragged on but I thought was hysterically funny).

It wasn't super scary, but I thought it was very well directed and produced and really enjoyable.

 

[elreece]

I actually never saw Amistad. I read a book about the story when I was younger, and it had the movie on the cover, but I don't think it was an adaption of the movie or anything.



Haha, yeah, I really can't relate to that experience at all. I thought it was fast paced, fresh, and that it climaxed to a very entertaining and satisfying ending. I also thought it was the second funniest movie of the year as well (after Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, which dragged on but I thought was hysterically funny).

It wasn't super scary, but I thought it was very well directed and produced and really enjoyable.

Check out Amistad. Really good movie definitely download it/check it out. Also Roots if you havent seen it

An fair enough with Get Out.

 

[peytonlucy]

Self-explanatory. I just finished the (wildly disappointing) Godfather series, having not seen it in many years, and this topic came to mind.


1. The Departed
2. The Godfather: Part II
3. Fight Club



Frankly, the original Godfather may be slightly overrated on its own, but Godfather II is markedly less impressive because, whereas the original hung its hat on stellar performances by Brando, Pacino, and Duvall, in the sequel, Brando's character is dead, Pacino's portrayal becomes a caricature of itself, and Duvall gets fuck all for screen time.

The Departed is just all-around a shitty film with shitty performances. It's like if The Godfather were directed by a music video director. DiCaprio and Wahlberg always blow because they're not dynamic talents, but Damon and Nicholson are genuinely talented actors. Yet Damon's performance is as boring and cookie cutter as the film itself and Nicholson's is cartoonish, perhaps to make up for everyone else.

For Scorsese, Taxi Driver, Mean Streets, Cape Fear, Raging Bull, and The Last Temptation of Christ are all markedly better than The Departed, and probably all are better than Goodfellas.

For Fincher, Se7en and Gone Girl are certainly better than Fight Club.




Go.

I can't even imagine that anyone would consider the Departed or Fight club to be great. I rewatched the Godfather I this week. The Godfather II, for some, can drag during the second half, and if you don't find the early Vito passages interesting, then yeah it would be overrated. Overrated is a relative term: in the case of the Godfather I & II they are often considered top 20 GOAT material. A movie must really come through to deserve that kind of hype. It's like the ronda thing; she was very good for WMMA 135 pounds, if they had left it at that things would have been fine. They had to claim that she was the greatest female athlete in the history of the species. 12-2 doesn't cover that type of claim.

 

[SammyPops]

Any movies about British Royalty (King's Speech) or the oppressed jewish people (Shchlinder's List or Munich).

 

[Trotsky]

I can't even imagine that anyone would consider the Departed or Fight club to be great. I rewatched the Godfather I this week. The Godfather II, for some, can drag during the second half, and if you don't find the early Vito passages interesting, then yeah it would be overrated. Overrated is a relative term: in the case of the Godfather I & II they are often considered top 20 GOAT material. A movie must really come through to deserve that kind of hype. It's like the ronda thing; she was very good for WMMA 135 pounds, if they had left it at that things would have been fine. They had to claim that she was the greatest female athlete in the history of the species. 12-2 doesn't cover that type of claim.

Feeling hella relieved I'm getting so much agreement on The Departed being shit.

I actually thought the Vito backstory to be the most compelling part of Godfather II. The contemporary storyline was what I thought sucked: it was awkwardly paced and anticlimactic. Godfather I on the other hand holds water for me because it's a more artfully directed film and felt much more human. And, as I said in the OP, Pacino's performance was much better.

 

[rj144]

All of the Lord of the Rings - 4
Seven Samurai - 1
City of God - 5
Terminator 2 - 3
Apocalypse Now - 3
Dr. Strangelove - 1
The Lives of Others - 1
The Dark Knight Rises - 3
Once Upon a Time in America - 1
Citizen Kane - 4
Vertigo - 4
M - 1
A Clockwork Orange - 5
To Kill a Mocking Bird - 3
2001: A Space Odyssey - 5
The Sting - 3
Snatch - 3
Monty Python and the Holy Grail - 3
Rashoman - 1
Yojimbo - 1
All About Eve - 3
The Great Escape - 2
The Third Man - 4
Ran - 1
Judgement at Nuremberg - 4
The Seventh Seal - 2
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - 2
Casino - 4
V for Vendetta - 2
Trainspotting - 5
Fargo - 2
The Big Lebowski - 3
Cool Hand Luke - 4
Hacksaw Ridge - 1
Donnie Darko - 1
Annie Hall - 4

WTF do the numbers mean?

 

[Zer]

All of the Lord of the Rings - 4
Seven Samurai - 1
City of God - 5
Terminator 2 - 3
Apocalypse Now - 3
Dr. Strangelove - 1
The Lives of Others - 1
The Dark Knight Rises - 3
Once Upon a Time in America - 1
Citizen Kane - 4
Vertigo - 4
M - 1
A Clockwork Orange - 5
To Kill a Mocking Bird - 3
2001: A Space Odyssey - 5
The Sting - 3
Snatch - 3
Monty Python and the Holy Grail - 3
Rashoman - 1
Yojimbo - 1
All About Eve - 3
The Great Escape - 2
The Third Man - 4
Ran - 1
Judgement at Nuremberg - 4
The Seventh Seal - 2
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - 2
Casino - 4
V for Vendetta - 2
Trainspotting - 5
Fargo - 2
The Big Lebowski - 3
Cool Hand Luke - 4
Hacksaw Ridge - 1
Donnie Darko - 1
Annie Hall - 4

Agree with a lot of those but those Kurosawa films getting shit on?

 

[DM1982]

WTF do the numbers mean?

How many times he's watched them, I think.

 

[moreorless87]

Feeling hella relieved I'm getting so much agreement on The Departed being shit.

I actually thought the Vito backstory to be the most compelling part of Godfather II. The contemporary storyline was what I thought sucked: it was awkwardly paced and anticlimactic. Godfather I on the other hand holds water for me because it's a more artfully directed film and felt much more human. And, as I said in the OP, Pacino's performance was much better.

I wouldn't say "shit" but "unremarkable" and certainly not worth of an Oscar win for me, some of the stuiff with Jack and Marky Mark is fun if shallow and its an ok thriller but nothing really that inspired.

I do consider both original Godfathers to live up to the hype though. If I was being critical I would say that Part 1 isn't quite as interesting after the restaurant assassination, becomes rather bitty in its narrative rather than the great buildup prior to that. In the sequel honestly I think the reverse, the Vito stuff is still very good but I don't think it came compare to the Michael plot.

Its obviously a very different kind of performance to the innocent Micheal being drawn into the mafia in the original but honestly I think Pacino is even better in the sequel. That's a performance of amazing subtle intensity for me quite different from the "hoo haa" overacting of his latter career.

 

[rj144]

Agree with a lot of those but those Kurosawa films getting shit on?

That gif is awesome.

 

[rj144]

Most of the overrated movies listed so far are not for me. I'd go with Forest Gump and Avatar.

I know it's not universally considered great, but a lot of people like John Wick. That movie was beyond awful.

 

[robertcop2]

Self-explanatory. I just finished the (wildly disappointing) Godfather series, having not seen it in many years, and this topic came to mind.


1. The Departed
2. The Godfather: Part II
3. Fight Club



Frankly, the original Godfather may be slightly overrated on its own, but Godfather II is markedly less impressive because, whereas the original hung its hat on stellar performances by Brando, Pacino, and Duvall, in the sequel, Brando's character is dead, Pacino's portrayal becomes a caricature of itself, and Duvall gets fuck all for screen time.

The Departed is just all-around a shitty film with shitty performances. It's like if The Godfather were directed by a music video director. DiCaprio and Wahlberg always blow because they're not dynamic talents, but Damon and Nicholson are genuinely talented actors. Yet Damon's performance is as boring and cookie cutter as the film itself and Nicholson's is cartoonish, perhaps to make up for everyone else.

For Scorsese, Taxi Driver, Mean Streets, Cape Fear, Raging Bull, and The Last Temptation of Christ are all markedly better than The Departed, and probably all are better than Goodfellas.

For Fincher, Se7en and Gone Girl are certainly better than Fight Club.




Go.

You have good opinions on films. I like the Departed, but you are right about everything else.

 

[peytonlucy]

Feeling hella relieved I'm getting so much agreement on The Departed being shit.

I actually thought the Vito backstory to be the most compelling part of Godfather II. The contemporary storyline was what I thought sucked: it was awkwardly paced and anticlimactic. Godfather I on the other hand holds water for me because it's a more artfully directed film and felt much more human. And, as I said in the OP, Pacino's performance was much better.

I think we see the Godfather I & Godfather II is a very similar way. The Godfather I is a better film. The Godfather II feels like it was compelled to close the cycle with Michael, with the Meyer Lansky/ Cuba element might have took on too much material and was maybe too Michael-centric. I do very much like the Godfather II overall, but I can see why others wouldn't.

 

[minute bull]

Agree with a lot of those but those Kurosawa films getting shit on?

At first I thought it might be the foreign language gap, but he rates OLD BOY highly. But then again it's not like OLD BOY is confined by its language or culture.

 

[robertcop2]

All of the Lord of the Rings - 4
Seven Samurai - 1
City of God - 5
Terminator 2 - 3
Apocalypse Now - 3
Dr. Strangelove - 1
The Lives of Others - 1
The Dark Knight Rises - 3
Once Upon a Time in America - 1
Citizen Kane - 4
Vertigo - 4
M - 1
A Clockwork Orange - 5
To Kill a Mocking Bird - 3
2001: A Space Odyssey - 5
The Sting - 3
Snatch - 3
Monty Python and the Holy Grail - 3
Rashoman - 1
Yojimbo - 1
All About Eve - 3
The Great Escape - 2
The Third Man - 4
Ran - 1
Judgement at Nuremberg - 4
The Seventh Seal - 2
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - 2
Casino - 4
V for Vendetta - 2
Trainspotting - 5
Fargo - 2
The Big Lebowski - 3
Cool Hand Luke - 4
Hacksaw Ridge - 1
Donnie Darko - 1
Annie Hall - 4

You should just jump from a tall building. Your opinion sucks.

 

[Trotsky]

Hacksaw Ridge - 1

I was actually very pleasantly surprised by how good Hacksaw was. I don't care for Garfield, and the proselytizing aspect was annoying, but I thought Gibson did a really good job capturing the chaos, disorganization, and delirium of war, while still maintaining narrative structure. Given his political disposition, I am in no rush to applaud Gibson, but I was shocked at how well directed this was.