"MMA is closer to real fighting therfore its a better sport"

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than boxing..


how do you respond to this argument, i hear it all the time and it irritates me
 
than boxing..


how do you respond to this argument, i hear it all the time and it irritates me
Its nothing like real fighting.
Nike sponsors real fights. Not reebox
 
The appeal of MMA over Boxing to me is that fighters can do more. They can be more creative with their techniques. There are more ways to win and lose. MMA does in fact address more ranges of combat that not only make it more interesting but are definitely applicable in a real fight so it's also educational. MMA has everything that Boxing has plus more techniques from other Martial Arts. That doesn't necessarily mean it is a better sport. That is a matter of opinion. Fights in MMA can also be boring for the same reasons they can be in Boxing (e.g. no action = boring and because of the grappling this can be even worse in MMA e.g. Lay n Pray and Wall and Stall).

So for me the option of fighters to do more because it is closer to a real fight does make MMA more interesting than Boxing but some people still like Boxing more because they find fighting with fists more aesthetically pleasing or like the tradition, long history, greater exposure etc.

To each his own. You can also like both equally.
 
The appeal of MMA over Boxing to me is that fighters can do more. They can be more creative with their techniques. There are more ways to win and lose. MMA does in fact address more ranges of combat that not only make it more interesting but are definitely applicable in a real fight so it's also educational. MMA has everything that Boxing has plus more techniques from other Martial Arts. That doesn't necessarily mean it is a better sport. That is a matter of opinion. Fights in MMA can also be boring for the same reasons they can be in Boxing (e.g. no action = boring and because of the grappling this can be even worse in MMA e.g. Lay n Pray and Wall and Stall).

So for me the option of fighters to do more because it is closer to a real fight does make MMA more interesting than Boxing but some people still like Boxing more because they find fighting with fists more aesthetically pleasing or like the tradition, long history, greater exposure etc.

To each his own. You can also like both equally.
but their is something about watching elite boxers, men that honed their craft to such a pristine level

MMA has more styles, incorporates more which means their are more ways to win...but its sort of like a jack of all trades, master of none

and when you do get masters in mma, they have to adapt to a more general style..which can get people put off by it
 
I like both. My interest in MMA probably stems from the ten years of childhood Judo I did, and the bjj I've been training sporadically for the last decade. I like it when fights hit the ground. IMO that's where MMA really excels. The standup part of it - the boxing and kickboxing element of it, I guess - is less interesting to me because it often seems crude in comparison to boxing.

Boxing is something I've never done, but I've been watching it since I was five. It's like a drug and I don't think anything quite compares to two elite boxers going at it.

As for real fights, what does that even mean? I work in a jail and I've probably seen a few over the years. I'd say if you're an inmate good boxing is a real advantage. As a CO nothing beats good basic grappling.
 
I'd say I prefer watching boxing to MMA because there is something special about the code of honor involved in 2 fighters agreeing to use the same weapon of choice regardless of how the fight progresses. If your winning you have to continuing using that weapon to close the deal, and if your losing you have to quickly adjust and figure out how to utilize the weapon in a way that will yield more successful results. There are no escape hatches like being permitted to employ an entirely different weapon when you are experiencing difficulty. You sharpen your weapon and learn how to use it effectively against your opponent or you lose. This is one of those instances where the controlled example is superior to the realistic version.
 
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Boxing isn't like a real fight, a real fight would never be able to match the toll a boxing match takes on a human body.
 
I generally don't care. If that's somebodies taste, it's their taste. As long as you aren't annoying about it (and, unfortunately, many are), I'm cool with whatever you like.
 
but their is something about watching elite boxers, men that honed their craft to such a pristine level

MMA has more styles, incorporates more which means their are more ways to win...but its sort of like a jack of all trades, master of none

and when you do get masters in mma, they have to adapt to a more general style..which can get people put off by it

MMA is improving to the point where we are seeing more and more masters of all trades e.g. fighters who are adept at Striking, Wrestling and Submission Grappling. MMA has had different phases leading us to where we are today and establishing a blueprint for the future....

1. The Educational Phase: Learning what works in a fight with limited rules.

2. The Transitional Phase: Fighters coming from different combat sports and Martial Arts disciplines to become Mixed Martial Artists.

3. The Mastery Phase: Fighters are now working hard to perfect their craft with MMA now an established sport that young athletes are training directly to compete in.

What MMA needs to be on Boxing's level of professionalism is a more organized amateur circuit, more pay for the fighters and more exposure in the media. MMA can co-exist with Boxing and people can favor Boxing if that is what they are in to but there is no reason why we can't see enough progress in MMA to recognize the fighters as specialists in their own discipline the way we see high level Boxers. You can be good at every aspect of MMA and as the sport grows I expect us to see more fighters reach that level.
 
than boxing..


how do you respond to this argument, i hear it all the time and it irritates me
Real men don't have to explain what and why they like what they like .

That conversation is akin to my dad can beat up your dad .
 
kindergarten logic

^ This.

Also, kindergarten topic from easily the worst poster on here.

I even prefer reading John_Wilkinson's addle-pated, poorly-spelt, randomly-punctuated drivel. At least he's not fishing (apart from for someone to take up his court case over him assaulting that bus driver, natch), whereas the twat that started this thread only ever shit-posts.
 
Well, I've seen quite a few "real fights" over the years, and only a few ever went to the ground.

Once one dude slumps to the ground, it's generally over.
"Real fights" are generally two fucking tools going at it over something trivial. USUALLY, but not always.
Then again, that landscape is changing, I'm sure as mor McMMA joints open all over North America.

Is Nascar better than F1 because it's "Closer to "real" driving?

Is Figure skating better than Hockey because it's closer to "real skating"?

The argument is stupid to start with.
 
You touch them with teh damn jab. If they try to dry hump you just fill the room with uppercuts.
 
^ This.

Also, kindergarten topic from easily the worst poster on here.

I even prefer reading John_Wilkinson's addle-pated, poorly-spelt, randomly-punctuated drivel. At least he's not fishing (apart from for someone to take up his court case over him assaulting that bus driver, natch), whereas the twat that started this thread only ever shit-posts.
Well said , this post gives no value to our forum, should be moved to the Mayberry
 
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