Mirko Cro Cop vs Rumble Johnson - who wins?

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  1. Tapping Machine

    Tapping Machine Banned Banned

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    The Mirko that knocked out Wanderlei vs the Rumble that killed Bader

    Who do you give the edge to?
     
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    Didn’t that cop get wrecked by randleman around same time?
     
  3. Tapping Machine

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    He won the 2006 PRIDE OWGP around 2 and a half years after he lost to Randleman
     
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    Prime Cro Cop got KO'd by Gonzaga and then went on to lose to Kongo lol Rumble KO's him
     
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    Both has %50 chance
     
  6. Tapping Machine

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    I agree

    But I like to listen to some diverging opinions, this is what makes MMA discussion great
     
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    Whatn't was that fight, Upset of the Year and Knockout of the Year (2004) and didn't Cro Cop win their rematch in under a minute a couple of months later.
    Rumble would have the same chance that Randleman did vs 2006 Cro Cop, he could win by early ko but the longer it lasted the more chance Cro Cop would have.
     
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    Cro Cop beat Wanderlei 10th September 2006, Rumble beat Rich Moskowitz (whoever he is) 16th September 2006 at WW.
    They should have fought then, they were both coming off a win.
     
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  9. Tapping Machine

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    The funny (and crazy) thing is that Cro Cop would've had an easier time making 170 than Rumble did
     
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    Rumble puts pressure on guys, which Mirko doesn't deal well with, and he throws bombs. Plus there's the wrestling threat, which means Mirko might leave his chin hanging in the air for one of the aforementioned bombs, while he defends a phantom takedown.
    On the other hand, Mirko is the far superior striker, kills things with his left-most limbs, isn't easily flat-lined on the feet, and has pretty underrated grappling - especially defensively. He's also fast as fuck.

    Seeing Rumble fail to put Arlovski down has me leaning toward Mirko on this one. Rumble might actually be bigger than Cro Cop, but prime Mirko's got that HW durability (normally).
     
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    Cage aj. Ring interesting
     
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    Depends heavily on weather its in a ring or in a cage...

    Cro Cops game is tailor made for a ring, where he spent first 15 years of his career.

    We all know cage generally favours wrestlers, and when Mirko came to UFC his weaknesses were quickly shown and he had to basically reinvent his game, became a clinch fighter, dangerous with elbows from the guard/clinch, and rarely throwing any combinations.

    7 knee surgeries after Pride OWGP didnt help either, completely took his kicks from him, and also getting welcomed by young and hungry Gonzaga and JDS didnt help either...
     
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    50/50 fight, in my opinion.
     
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    CroCop has fought way bigger and dangerous strikers than Rumble

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    Lmao

    So you post a GIF of him knocking out a pro wrestler with a 9-5 MMA record and a washed up 5'7" guy

    Ok mate

    Oh yeah, he also lost to Hunt in MMA when Hunt was horrible and would go on a 6 fight losing streak (all by finishes) not long after....
     
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    Crocop was asked at one point in his career if he couldn't drop a weightclass since he's a relativeley small HW. He said he would have to cut a leg to make the 205. Not sure if he never even tried, or just thickboned and won't drop weight easily.

    Crocop deals pretty well with pressure standing. In his fight vs Aleks, he was on the run most part of the (short) fight, dodging everything Aleks threw at him, and Aleks has fast hands. Even when Crocop found himself trapped in a corner, he managed to get out and counter effectively.

    The takedown threat is the real deal, but I'm not sure Rumble is that big of a threat with his takedowns. Still, a well placed fake TD attempt could make Crocop open his guard enough to place a haymaker
     
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    What style of wrestling does Rumble come from: freestyle or Greco-Roman? Mirko's defensive grappling, and he had an excellent sprawl (one of the all-time best). In the ring, a lot of the advantages of a Greco-Roman style are negated.
     
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    Rumble sleep him, specially if this is under USADA
     
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    Cage: 50/50

    Ring: Mirko 90/10

    In his prime, in a ring, Mirko is the all around better striker, by far, and had an excellent sprawl and incredible take down defense. Much of his style and his reactions are negated by the cage, and Unified Rules. As Mirko and a ton of analysts have concluded over the years. Betting on Mirko is safe money there.

    In a cage? It might be a coin flip, or a slight edge to Mirko.
     

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