Law Million Plus NJ Gun Owners Defy State Law, Refuse to Turn Over Banned Gun Mags

7437 said:
Well you are also supposed to do it publicly. Like what MLK and Ghandi did. Doing it in secret isn't really the same thing.
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Doing it in secret is not the same thing but its still a form of resistance to the law that in the aggregate has an effect. It seems like the state assumed people would turn them in but since no one has they are seemingly at a loss as to how to enforce this law.

I think this kind of resistance is partly why marijuana legalization happened. After the initial hysteria of the War on Drugs cops started to notice that the people who were smoking pot weren't hardened criminals but mostly normal people and over time many cops started to become more and more lenient because of that.

These small, secret violations of unethical laws add up and erode the legitimacy of the law.
 
Rational Poster said:
I don't believe I'm better than you I know it.
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I just popped into this thread. This was the first thing I saw. I didn't even need to read the post you were replying to or understand the context of the conversation to know you're getting owned and are salty about it.
 
Bargey said:
The 2nd amendment isn’t about begging or protesting - it is “the right to bear arms” that “shall not be infringed”. Once you allow your rights to be taken away then you are basically saying “I don’t want to be free” and you deserve jail and worse.

I respect the true patriots that refuse to hand in their magazines: the Founding Fathers would be looking down proudly.
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Lets take Venezuela as a good example.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/venezuelans-regret-gun-prohibition-we-could-have-defended-ourselves
CUCUTA, Venezuela/Colombia border – As Venezuela continues to crumble under the socialist dictatorship of President Nicolas Maduro, some are expressing words of warning – and resentment – against a six-year-old gun control bill that stripped citizens of their weapons.

“Guns would have served as a vital pillar to remaining a free people, or at least able to put up a fight,” Javier Vanegas, 28, a Venezuelan teacher of English now exiled in Ecuador, told Fox News. “The government security forces, at the beginning of this debacle, knew they had no real opposition to their force. Once things were this bad, it was a clear declaration of war against an unarmed population.”


Under the direction of then-President Hugo Chavez, the Venezuelan National Assembly in 2012 enacted the “Control of Arms, Munitions and Disarmament Law,” with the explicit aim to “disarm all citizens.” The law took effect in 2013, with only minimal pushback from some pro-democracy opposition figures, banned the legal commercial sale of guns and munitions to all - except government entities.

Chavez initially ran a months-long amnesty program encouraging Venezuelans to trade their arms for electrical goods. That year, there were only 37 recorded voluntary gun surrenders, while the majority of seizures - more than 12,500 – were by force.
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lfd0311 said:
I just popped into this thread. This was the first thing I saw. I didn't even need to read the post you were replying to or understand the context of the conversation to know you're getting owned and are salty about it.
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{<huh}
 
lfd0311 said:
Stop acting like you don't know "I'm better than you" is your go to schtick for when you're being owned.
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He's the one who said it first. I was just being clever.

I was correcting their argument and he was salty that his state is the 2nd worst in high school graduation rate.

No salt or care here kiddo.
 
Rational Poster said:
He's the one who said it first. I was just being clever.

I was correcting their argument and he was salty that his state is the 2nd worst in high school graduation rate.

No salt or care here kiddo.
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I was not lying when I said I didn't read anything other than your post. "I'm better than you" is your standard response. It's lame.
 
lfd0311 said:
I was not lying when I said I didn't read anything other than your post. "I'm better than you" is your standard response. It's lame.
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"I don't know what I'm talking about but I'm going make pretend I know what I'm talking about"

Seems about usual for you as well.
 
Rational Poster said:
"I don't know what I'm talking about but I'm going make pretend I know what I'm talking about"

Seems about usual for you as well.
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I mean..... except for I stated that I neither knew nor cared what your conversation was, but could tell just from your tone and the words used that you were getting crushed. Good to see you missed all that.
 
lfd0311 said:
I mean..... except for I stated that I neither knew nor cared what your conversation was, but could tell just from your tone and the words used that you were getting crushed. Good to see you missed all that.
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I didn't miss anything, didn't get crushed.

You wish I did because I hurt your feelings too.

You're trying too hard.
 
lfd0311 said:
LOL, Overly Self Important Poster is overly self important.
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"I don't care about you, but I'm just going to quote you while you're talking to someone else to tell you how much I don't care about you then reply to you again and again to tell you how much I don't care."
 
Rational Poster said:
"I don't care about you, but I'm just going to quote you while you're talking to someone else to tell you how much I don't care about you then reply to you again and again to tell you how much I don't care."
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Did you read my first post? Again, that wasn't a lie. I'm only still here because you keep responding to what I'm saying with (naturally) gross and dishonest misrepresentations of what I said.
 
lfd0311 said:
Did you read my first post? Again, that wasn't a lie. I'm only still here because you keep responding to what I'm saying with (naturally) gross and dishonest misrepresentations of what I said.
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Let me demonstrate how to actually not care about someone right..... now.
 
Rational Poster said:
Let me demonstrate how to actually not care about someone right..... now.
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1.) The fact that you felt you needed to tell me that demonstrates how not true that is.

2.) I didn't say I didn't care initally. Said I opened the thread and the first comment was you getting owned. Reading comprehension is a real thing.
 
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7437 said:
Well you are also supposed to do it publicly. Like what MLK and Ghandi did. Doing it in secret isn't really the same thing.
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Henry David Thoreau's civil disobedience was done privately, yet it's just as valid.
 
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