Military Roll Call! Veterans, GTFIH!

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  1. BigDickRick

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    Alright, new topic. The jobs I’ve had after I’ve left the service include, in no particular order:

    Dept of the Army Test Admin.
    USCIS Immigration officer
    Amazon
    Export Compliance Specialist
    Also fill time student in there as well courtesy of the VA. <20>

    What about you guys that have retired or separated?

    The thing I find that helps me the most in government or private sector work that I learned and became good while in the service at was working in a controlled chaos environment. A lot of tasks, a lot of shit flying around but there is a plan to accomplish all this shit.
     
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    Aerospace Industry:
    . Nordam, DeCrane, Embraer (Brazil)

    I also volunteer in animal rescues. Horses, donkeys, dogs, cats, and other 4 legged friends. 5 donkeys I rescued and adopted. A great source of peace. Here is 'Smoke' in Iraq in 2003 with the USMC:
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  4. BillytheFish

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    Global Strategies Group, Olive Group, Salama Fikira, Neptune, New Century, ArmorGroup, Saladin and a few others for security work. Decided to ditch that life and currently in full time college. Only thing my paramedic license will be useful for is graduating as an RN then heading for flight nurse jobs hopefully. What are you studying?
     
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    Undergrad was Economics. Graduate was international trade and policy. How was the money doing security work? I read a book probably 12 years ago where they stated those guys could earn $500 plus a day. Not sure how true it was.
     
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    Awesome how did you find college after military life? I feel 100 years old compared to classmates haha.

    Yeah money was good but isn't everything. Some jobs I did was double that daily rate and looking back was not worth the risk involved- at all. It's a good job if youre single.
     
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    Yeah I jumped back into school when I was 30. Felt old as fuck. Especially taking some of the 100 level classes and there’s 18 year old in the class with you.
    One of the things I remember about the first few classes I took was the lack of respect a lot of students had for the professor. Walking into class late talking on their phones, talking during class. Phones going off in class. All that struck me as odd coming out of the military.
     
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    The wee bastards cant put their phones away for more than 2mins lol
     
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    When I arrived at my first station myself and some other guys volunteered at Camp Collie in Great Falls MT. It was for collies that were found in the back of semi trailers that had been abused and mistreated. I think it was May 2002. All the dogs that were brought down the Great Falls from Shelby MT were all in pretty rough shape. Pretty fucking sad and disturbing that people will treat dogs like that.

    “Jonathan Harman, 49, and Athena Ann Lethcoe-Harman, 40, await their Dec. 2 Justice Court appearance on the amended charges of 182 misdemeanor counts each of animal cruelty.”
    http://www.cutbankpioneerpress.com/news/article_2d07b7e6-96c5-5da1-994d-ee8d45af07b0.html
     
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    SFAS, in its current form, is about 19 days long. It changes up a fair amount though. It used to be 2 weeks, but now it's about 3. There are 3 phases of the course: Gate Week, Land Nav Week, and Team Week. The most grueling, and by far the most important, is Team Week.
     
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    Don't feel too bad about "feeling old" I started college after getting out/actually while I was still in the reserves and even though I was only about four to five years older than most of the other students it felt like I'd been thrown back in high school.

    Although I will say it was soooooo much easier picking up women as the "older more mature" guy.
     
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    The reason I feel differently than you about whether the tab or scroll is the marker of the Ranger is because of the lifestyle these guys live nowadays. Ranger Regiment is 100% SOF. Those guys are kicking down doors at a really high level, working with USASOC and JSOC to complete highly sensitive and important missions. They train and deploy like any SOF unit would, and their shit is dialed. Ranger School is the thing, a rite of passage, that E-3's and E-4's do between combat deployments so that they can get promoted, stop getting harassed, and fit in with their more senior Ranger brethren. From what I understand, the guys in Regiment consider you a cherry until you have your tab, but the tabbed guys not in the Regiment aren't Rangers. I'm not in their unit, so I won't speak to how they do things. I worked with Regiment guys at USASOC HQ, so I know a little how they think, but I'm not one of them. Anyways, the same standards and commitment to training simply can't be said for a regular Infantry unit. That IN unit can have super tough dudes that have great training and would fit right in with any SOF unit (we all recruit from somewhere), but they're not living that lifestyle as a part of the regular Army. They're living the big Army life, not the SOF life of many shorter deployments, extensive training missions, and the constant pressure to learn new skills and sharpen up. Plenty of dudes get their tab, sit back, and let things pass them by, resting on that laurel. They don't live and breathe the mission like SOF does, and they don't think that "every day is Selection." For Rangers in the 75th, SF, and beyond, you can get bounced from those units on any day. That's why I personally feel that there is a difference between the Ranger tab and being a Ranger. I don't know what @Mike Hagger or @BillytheFish think, but they are their own men with their own opinions, and they can speak for themselves.

    I actually had a gay guy on my team. It's uncommon, but they've always been there. He was a perfectly professional Soldier, and he never gave the team or me any problems. He was quiet about that part of his life, it was understood that he had a boyfriend, and everyone pretty much let it be. I don't have any issues with gays serving. Women, on the other hand, are smaller and carry less weight. They don't fit in well when you're trying to teach a bunch of Middle Eastern or African men how to fight a war. That's an operational problem for me. My feelings there are very different than those I have towards gay men in the military.
     
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    This is spot on. The M240B is an awesome machine gun. There's no need to change it. And I'm shocked by the lack of AT weapons training in most conventional units. Those things are awesome, and most Soldiers don't understand the value of explosive ordnance in hitting a target or covering dead space in terrain.
     
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    I can say coming from the 82nd, then to Group, I have had Ranger batt dudes as teammates, plt sgts, ect. There’s a difference, your average pvt (non-tabbed) in Batt is treated differently, trained better, and much more capable than any other light infantrymen. I believe that completely, and I was Airborne Infantry. Either way, I don’t see it as a big deal, I just know that if I said I was a ‘Ranger’ around any of those Batt dudes I would take shit.
     
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    I'll take your word for it. I didn't come from an Infantry background, and I was one of those officers who went to Ranger School after completing the Q-Course. I guess the Army thought I needed more stuff that sucked in my life right away. It was kind of nice in a way because I was then assigned to a Dive team, so CDQC was in my future as well. My life was pretty miserable for the better part of a year, and the first deployment on a team was a welcome treat away from all that training.

    Anyways, back on topic, yeah, I've been impressed with the Batt guys that I saw (minus in SFAS, where those fuckers are the worst human beings on the planet), and they're definitely well-trained. My only criticisms are going to have cultural origins, such as the idea that they are too rigid, too much into standardization for the sake of itself, and don't use their brains enough. But they are well-trained, tough as nails, and you can depend on these guys to do their jobs, especially the shitty ones that require more discipline than they do finesse (I've met few Rangers who were dirtbags when it came time to pull security or lie on an ambush line at night). I would never call myself a Ranger to those guys, I definitely wouldn't walk around USASOC saying it, but I wouldn't want any Ranger or SEAL saying that they were Special Forces either.
     
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    My understanding was that to be considered a "Ranger" you had to have served in the Regiment but I aint even American so...
     
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    U.S. Army quietly discharging immigrant recruits

    "Some immigrant U.S. Army reservists and recruits who enlisted in the military with a promised path to citizenship are being abruptly discharged, the Associated Press has learned...More than 5,000 immigrants were recruited into the program in 2016, and an estimated 10,000 are currently serving. Most go the Army, but some also go to the other military branches."

    "Immigrants have been serving in the Army since 1775, we wouldn't have won the revolution without immigrants, and we're not going to win the global war on terrorism today without immigrants."


    Story: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/u...immigrant-recruits/ar-AAzDJyx?ocid=spartandhp

    ...another 'brilliant' idea by the U.S. Army. Have to strongly disagree with this one. At a time when recruitment numbers are not being met. Immigrants willing to serve in the U.S. military, and go to war, when other Americans opt not to serve.
     
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    You take the Donkeys home or just a place on base?
     
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    At least they won’t be deported.
     

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