Migrants will not pay for your retirement

Indeed. Especially in an already developed country that doesn't need them in droves for development anymore. Something people who constantly point to the 1800's and early 1900's conveniently leave out.

Like Japan ?
Which has a now moribund and stale economy and is only gonna get worse ?
 
llegal immigrants have giant families compared to tax payers. They help neighborhoods when they stuff 50 people into a house from the 60 year old great great great grandma to the 13 year old great great granddaughter that is pregnant.
 
Like Japan ?
Which has a now moribund and stale economy and is only gonna get worse ?



Yeah, good point. What Japan really needs right now is droves of uneducated desperate 3rd worlders who are completely foreign to their values and way of life to come over and fix all that. Problem solved. You should run for office over there bro, show'em how it's done.
 
Yeah, good point. What Japan really needs right now is droves of uneducated desperate 3rd worlders who are completely foreign to their values and way of life to come over and fix all that. Problem solved. You should run for office over there bro, show'em how it's done.

There is just so much wrong in that there post that it's best to just hold my nose and step around it.

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Mass immigration is solely for the benefit of big business and the wealthy elite as it's fundamental in driving down wages and working conditions and keeping the distribution of wealth moving upwards. And the real kicker is that while these few elites reap all of the rewards, the very people who get screwed over in all this are also the ones who foot the bill via ever increasing taxation.

Then we have legions of brainwashed 'liberals' and 'left-wingers' who are happy to parrot their propaganda work by calling people racist for objecting.
 
Too many retirees without even mentioning their parents in the aged care faciltires or the elderly just barely hanging on at home. Migrants cant fix this, nothing can.

Baby boomers will end up having to rely on their children.

Healthcare will be our number one service industry. We are fuxked.
 
Mass immigration is solely for the benefit of big business and the wealthy elite as it's fundamental in driving down wages and working conditions and keeping the distribution of wealth moving upwards. And the real kicker is that while these few elites reap all of the rewards, the very people who get screwed over in all this are also the ones who foot the bill via ever increasing taxation.

Then we have legions of brainwashed 'liberals' and 'left-wingers' who are happy to parrot their propaganda work by calling people racist for objecting.

Immigrants consume goods and services. You make it sound like there's a fixed number of available jobs in the US and that taking in more immigrants just makes it harder for natives to get jobs. But that ignores the impact that immigration has on demand.
 
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Immigrants consume goods and services. You make it sound like there's a fixed number of available jobs in the US and that taking in more immigrants just makes it harder for natives to get jobs. But that ignores the impact that immigration has on demand.

We are constantly told that we need immigration, that migrants pay more than they take out, they they will pay for our pensions, that they make us richer and so on, but none of this is actually true. Once you get passed the spin, the propaganda and the lies then we can see that the numbers don't lie. Mass immigration comes at a huge financial burden to ordinary tax payers and only benefits a few wealthy elites.

The Fraser Institute report shows that immigrants in Canada cost $32 billion a year and impose a huge fiscal burden on Canadian taxpayers

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/immigrants-cost-23b-a-year-fraser-institute-report

Study by the National Academies of Science, Engineering and Medicine shows that immigrants in America cost $296 billion a year and depress wages

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/sep/21/mass-immigration-costs-govt-296-billion-year-natio/

Think tank Migration Watch UK figures collected show that British tax payers are footing a £17 billion a year bill to fund immigrants.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/670875/migrants-cost-britain-brexit-eu-referendum-migration-report

You can through all these kinds of studies in all Western nations and they all paint the same picture. And this is just financial burden, before we even get to the huge social problems and civil unrest that mass immigration is also causing.

But people will keep drinking the Kool Aid and parroting the mantra that diversity is strength, that we absolutely need mass immigration, both economically and socially and anyone who dares suggest otherwise is literally Hitler.
 
Study by the National Academies of Science, Engineering and Medicine shows that immigrants in America cost $296 billion a year and depress wages

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/sep/21/mass-immigration-costs-govt-296-billion-year-natio/

Biased reporting by the Washington Times. Go the the primary source and you will realize this. http://www8.nationalacademies.org/onpinews/newsitem.aspx?RecordID=23550

When measured over a period of 10 years or more, the impact of immigration on the wages of native workers overall is very small. To the extent that negative wage effects are found, prior immigrants – who are often the closest substitutes for new immigrants – are most likely to experience them, followed by native-born high-school dropouts, who share job qualifications similar to the large share of low-skilled workers among immigrants to the United States.

Immigrants’ contributions to the labor force reduce the prices of some goods and services, which benefits consumers in a range of sectors, including child care, food preparation, house cleaning and repair, and construction. Moreover, new arrivals and their descendants are a source of demand in key sectors such as housing, which benefits residential real estate markets.

Immigration is integral to the nation’s economic growth. The inflow of labor supply has helped the United States avoid the problems facing other economies that have stagnated as a result of unfavorable demographics, particularly the effects of an aging workforce and reduced consumption by older residents. In addition, the infusion of human capital by high-skilled immigrants has boosted the nation’s capacity for innovation, entrepreneurship, and technological change. Research suggests, for example, that immigrants raise patenting per capita, which ultimately contributes to productivity growth. The prospects for long-run economic growth in the United States would be considerably dimmed without the contributions of high-skilled immigrants.

Over the period 1994-2013, the net fiscal contribution (federal, state, and local combined) of first-generation immigrants was, on average, consistently less favorable than that of native-born generations. Annual cross-sectional data reveal that, compared with the native-born, first-generation immigrants contributed less in taxes during working ages because they were, on average, less educated and earned less. However, this pattern reverses at around age 60, when the native-born (except for the children of immigrants) were consistently more expensive to government on a per-capita basis because of their greater use of social security benefits.


During the same 1994-2013 time period, second-generation adults — the children of immigrants — had, on average, a more favorable net fiscal impact for all government levels combined than either first-generation immigrants or the rest of the native-born population. Reflecting their slightly higher educational achievement, as well as their higher wages and salaries, the second generation contributed more in taxes on a per capita basis during working ages than did their parents or other native-born Americans.

Immigration is not significantly hurting or helping Americans.
 
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Immigration pays off if you're a developing nation. That's why we let your grandparents in New York way back when.
 
I highly doubt all that shit matters, as the article points out education is the better predictor. Some dirt poor Mexican dreaming of American citizenship will likely contribute less than an Indian with a PhD who integrates into the local Indian community with no intention of assimilation into larger American culture.
This. These low skilled people will not help nor their children as they will probably be similar as educations isn't great in poor neighborhoods
 
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