McGregor's boxing is worse than I thought

Sunfish said:
The reason you don't get many maverick boxers with unorthodox styles and unsound fundamentals is because it doesn't work. I know that's stating the obvious, but people like Naseem Hamed don't come around very often. If his unorthodox style involves constant switch hitting and holding his hands down he won't be difficult to figure out for Floyd.
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And throw in the fact someone like Hamed had life and death struggles with old or b-level fighters at times and as soon as he stepped it up got exposed big time.

So conor fans are praying that Floyd comes in with the Augie Sanchez game plan?
 
GordoBarraBJJ said:
And throw in the fact someone like Hamed had life and death struggles with old or b-level fighters at times and as soon as he stepped it up got exposed big time.

So conor fans are praying that Floyd comes in with the Augie Sanchez game plan?
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Fucking lol
 
lmao @ all these boxing purist tards. Connor has a pretty substantial beard. It can absorb a lot of punches, and also irritate Mayweather's skin. Add that to the size and reach advantage, and check mate.
 
cottagecheesefan said:
More like the greatest show on Erf.

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Lol. This actually made me laugh.

I watched his media workout for a little while and when he did that uppercut drill I said, "Conor just supplied Ronda Rousey level GIFS."
 
This is bad. This fool thinks he's good enough to pull shit like this off
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Meanwhile this is pretty bad head movement drilling. Head is way too forward, elbows flare out, and he backsteps with his front foot first. Looks like a crab with muscle soreness running late for work.
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And this....
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I don't even know. It's like he's trying to walk face first into a punch. If I were a Conor fan who KSAB I'd try and argue it was just a physical exercise or false propaganda to make Floyd underestimate him. Because that shit is dumb.

Lol @ Crawford clowning him

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Boxers train all their lives to perfect a technique. What comes with that is familiarity with how the opponent moves. Let's give some credit here to a different approach.

Old guard traditionalists mock Conor's movement. Could it be that he's showing something new? Maybe something different is what's needed to beat Floyd...
 
BoweryB'hoy said:
Could it be that he's showing something new? Maybe something different is what's needed to beat Floyd...
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By different do you mean the ability to box better than Floyd, or flinging his arms around like he's an octopus being tasered?
 
Lastofthemohican said:
By different do you mean the ability to box better than Floyd, or flinging his arms around like he's an octopus being tasered?
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Would be foolish of me, or anyone, to fathom Conor being able to box better. But that's the thing. Forget the flinging arms around. He does things in the ring that are unconventional. Purists are quick to point out "His weight is on the wrong foot" or "his jab is all wrong".

Every thing is wrong wrong wrong. What I'm asking is since every boxer is trained pretty much the same way, could these weird angles and movements be worth something in the fight?
 
BoweryB'hoy said:
Would be foolish of me, or anyone, to fathom Conor being able to box better. But that's the thing. Forget the flinging arms around. He does things in the ring that are unconventional. Purists are quick to point out "His weight is on the wrong foot" or "his jab is all wrong".

Every thing is wrong wrong wrong. What I'm asking is since every boxer is trained pretty much the same way, could these weird angles and movements be worth something in the fight?
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Every boxer does not train the same way- each boxer has different styles which they have tried over the last century and the successful ones made it into the big title fights and the ones that didn't work we never know about because they failed.
 
Lastofthemohican said:
Every boxer does not train the same way- each boxer has different styles which they have tried over the last century and the successful ones made it into the big title fights and the ones that didn't work we never know about because they failed.
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I may have overstated by saying the "same way". I agree with you that over the course of boxing development, refinements have discarded what works and what does not.

That being said, if 49 other boxers couldn't get an edge on Floyd, what else is Conor supposed to do? He's going to try something different, and definitely weird, definitely unorthodox. The only way he's going to get that punchers chance is if he tries something Floyd has never seen before. Chances are Floyd already knows this and has seen everything, but Conor's gotta try.
 
BoweryB'hoy said:
I may have overstated by saying the "same way". I agree with you that over the course of boxing development, refinements have discarded what works and what does not.

That being said, if 49 other boxers couldn't get an edge on Floyd, what else is Conor supposed to do? He's going to try something different, and definitely weird, definitely unorthodox. The only way he's going to get that punchers chance is if he tries something Floyd has never seen before. Chances are Floyd already knows this and has seen everything, but Conor's gotta try.
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I get what you're trying to say and agree with the idea behind it, it just seems clear that Mcgregor's attempt to be unconventional in his approach will not work in the slightest against Mayweather. And you cannot deny he looks a complete tit in those gifs lol
 
lol I agree about looking like a tit.

I do think being a tit may make things exciting for at least the first few rounds. I mean, that's all we have to hope for anyways since it's not going to be competitive down the stretch.
 
BoweryB'hoy said:
lol I agree about looking like a tit.

I do think being a tit may make things exciting for at least the first few rounds. I mean, that's all we have to hope for anyways since it's not going to be competitive down the stretch.
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I'll watch it for entertainment for the same reason as anyone else will, one thing is for sure though...there sure are alot of people willing to pay money to watch an Irishman and black guy get beat up lol...the world really does think we are scum!
 
BoweryB'hoy said:
Would be foolish of me, or anyone, to fathom Conor being able to box better. But that's the thing. Forget the flinging arms around. He does things in the ring that are unconventional. Purists are quick to point out "His weight is on the wrong foot" or "his jab is all wrong".

Every thing is wrong wrong wrong. What I'm asking is since every boxer is trained pretty much the same way, could these weird angles and movements be worth something in the fight?
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I understand this philosophy, but you have to know the rules in order to break them. In order to throw a boxer off with unconventional moves, you first have to know what they expect, and then subvert that expectation. People cite Maidana giving Floyd trouble or unconventional boxers like Roy, but the difference is they learned how to box correctly first (or at least conventionally), then added in what they found success with that bent the rules. In fact Maidana actually got better the more conventional he became under Garcia, at least on the outside. But in any case, it's after many many rounds against elite boxers. Knowing what they fall for, knowing what traps work most often, being able to follow their eyes and what feints they fall for, etc.

Otherwise you're not being unconventional, you're just being weird. Weird is not enough. If you put a fencer in there with Floyd, he's going to be weird, but it's not going to be successful. Put a street brawler in there, same thing. A Wing Chun specialist, same thing. Boxing techniques exist as they do because they work best for their own rule set. McGregor isn't going to discover a magical system-breaking anomaly that centuries of formalized participation and innovation didn't pioneer.

Conor may well come out awkward and give Floyd a little bit pause, but Floyd understands enough of the body mechanics in boxing that he'll see where the weight is distributed, see where the head/body is unprotected, and zero in on it time and time again. Just because it's weird doesn't mean its good. So far people are only using the concept and not giving any technical reason for how these movements should work in a boxing match at all.
 
nac386 said:
Lol. This actually made me laugh.

I watched his media workout for a little while and when he did that uppercut drill I said, "Conor just supplied Ronda Rousey level GIFS."
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A lot of boxers are straight up trolling him now for that shit.

Here is Crawford, Introducing the McGreggor challenge

 
BoweryB'hoy said:
I may have overstated by saying the "same way". I agree with you that over the course of boxing development, refinements have discarded what works and what does not.

That being said, if 49 other boxers couldn't get an edge on Floyd, what else is Conor supposed to do? He's going to try something different, and definitely weird, definitely unorthodox. The only way he's going to get that punchers chance is if he tries something Floyd has never seen before. Chances are Floyd already knows this and has seen everything, but Conor's gotta try.
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47 opponents, 2 rematches
 
Because hitting a heavy bag is a great indicator of how a fight would go. Amirite?

Conventional boxing can't beat Mayweather. He's the best.

Bob Sapp is a terrible kickboxer, but he beat one of the goats twice.

Conor has a chance. Not a very good one, but it's possible
 
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