Marijuana Use Linked to Increased Risk of Dying from High Blood Pressure

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  1. GriftyMcGrift

    GriftyMcGrift Blue Belt

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    people still being put in jail for weed and these people doing studies about high blood pressure

    come the fuck on

    make the shit legal, regulate it like every other fucking vice in this country except oh wait it causes high blood pressure? well shit man i guess ill go back to my soda and steak
     
  2. GriftyMcGrift

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    the beauty of it is, even if it couldnt help a single sick person with anything it would still be less harmful than alcohol

    drink up folks!
     
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    Armbars Do your own thing. And overdo it!

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    I have no doubts there's healing properties for some illnesses within.
     
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    regardless of what you're taking inhaling any smoke is bad for your lungs
     
  8. GriftyMcGrift

    GriftyMcGrift Blue Belt

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    Now that we all agree that "smoke is bad" can we all agree also that weed being a schedule 1 2 or even 3 drug is downright ridiculous?

    it should be somewhere between alcohol and caffene
     
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    I completely agree
     
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  11. jgarner

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    My only issue with this study is that they seem to be declaring anyone who has ever used marijuana (including single time use) to be a marijuana user. So if you smoked one time at a party several years prior, they would count you in the same category as someone who smokes daily or even just frequently.

    Here's the actual study...

    http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/2047487317723212
     
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    Makani Ain't Nobody Ever Been Free

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    I'm not one of the "marijuana is great" people, but this study seems weird. 1200 people over 6 years? How many of those people died within 6 years? And specifically of hypertension? If we're talking 9 marijuana users to 3 normies, is that statistically significant?

    For the record, I do think habitual marijuana use can heighten anxiety and encourage sedentary lifestyles, but I still think it should be legal.
     
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    Im not comparing it to cigarettes. Its still strain in your lungs. There are other methods to consume
     
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    weed affects everyone differently. some get anxiety or become sedentary, others feel more creative and energetic.
     
  16. Makani

    Makani Ain't Nobody Ever Been Free

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    Yeah, that's why I qualified it. I think it can be harmful if started early and used habitually, but I don't have any real evidence of problems if used as an adult. I smoked a ton of weed in my early 20's and I'm mostly sane and productive.
     
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    "Review literature and reports suggest that marijuana smoking increases heart rate from 20–100% for about 2–3 h," Holy fuck if my heart rate ever doubled and stayed that way for 2-3 fucking hours for sure I would never smoke again. Where do they get this?

    This just makes the whole study totally fucking useless, as you correctly pointed out:
    "We selected participants eligible for mortality follow-up, aged 20 years and above, who answered ‘‘yes’’ or ‘‘no’’ to the question, ‘‘Have you ever used marijuana or hashish?’’ Participants who answered yes were classified marijuana users and those who answered no, as non-marijuana users. Duration of marijuana use was estimated..." So, anything between a bag a week smoker and someone who tried it in college once (BUT DIDN'T INHALE LOL) is treated the same. That's stupid.
     
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    Yeah, while their candidate pool size is nice, I can see a few major issues with the actual study's methods without looking too hard.

    Basically this study was just enough to say "well the results warrant further study" without having to actually come to a real conclusion.

    Marijuana and its effects on blood pressure are actually fairly well documented already. The typical agreed upon answer is probably a little in new users but as you continue to develop a tolerance your blood pressure might actually drop. There are a ton of factors involved in how it actually affects blood pressure.

    https://www.leafly.com/news/health/cannabis-high-blood-pressure-hypertension
     
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