Manlets duck,heavyweights dont duck

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  1. yoni22 White Belt

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    Congrats for stipe for taking the fight with ngannou,a true warrior
    i cant think of a heavyweight champ that ducked his contenders,fedor,couture,cain,jds,werdum all warriors.
     
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    Well cutting weight is in a way = ducking

    So only hw don’t duck
     
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    yeah that's something i like about UFC HW division, guys always down to fight each other, Werdum and Walt Harris accepted their fight with just a few hours to the event

    on other hand at boxing there are like 5+ top HWs undefeated who never faced each other lol fucking pathetic
     
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    GSP ducked Whittaker and the rest of the MW division.
     
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    They say that at HW, the power is such that any fighter can take out any other. Kind of makes ducking useless if that's true.
     
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    Because there about 5 good active HWs not injured or on suspension
     
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    There's nothing to duck to unless they cut like 50 pounds lol
     
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    you are one pathetic fuck

    gsp is neither a manlet or an hw

    plus you cant duck the division above you

    gsp wen to mw and beat the king of that division, why slay some peasants now?

    a king conquer others kings
     
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    Fedor could have easily made LHW and been an absolute wrecking machine. Choose to fight the big boys. The absolute opposite to duck. Kudos to Miocic to but like me he has noticed holes in his game and it is best to get Ngannou out the way now rather than see him improve.
     
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    When you've made 5, $10 or $100million, its easier to take a year off or more.
    Stipe makes ~500-600k no win bonus he needs to fight again soon.
     
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    Fedorducked the UFC for a long time and really it’s always the least stacked division. The top 15 is littered with guys that have been around over a decade so of course they all fight each other.
     
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    Now this is pod racing!!!
    He's a working unionized fireman who does not live a lavish lifestyle. He is fine.
     
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  14. hillelslovak87 Red Belt

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    Fedor ducked the Just Bleed(tm) Gods by not cutting to lhw and fighting Wanderlei......
     
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    Fedor had an advantage because his opponents were slower, and less technical. If he fought at LHW, he would lose all of those advantages.

    HW's don't have anything to duck. They can't move down, and the bigger the HW, the easier they are to dance around, so, not much reason to duck. Fighters at lower weights don't delay fights because they're scared. They simply have more contenders to deal with, and are advised not to just take any fight because someone says so. It's about building your brand, and long term profitability, not fear. HW's can't do that because they would be sitting around a long time.

    Stipe either fights Ngannou, or he fights Werdum. Who else is there?

    Also, let's be honest, this ducking claim really revolves around Conor, and his newly cemented Mayweather sandbagging strategy that MMA fans are not accustomed to.

    Who else is ducking? D.J.? D.J. is trying to exhaust his options at his own weight in order to make moving up more lucrative, and meaningful. You guys don't understand that MMA is no longer about guys proving themselves. It's about positioning yourself for the biggest payday. You don't waste your production on any impulsive match-up. HW's don't have a lot of contenders to build towards.

    If Dana wants a certain match-up, let's talk business, or else, I'm not just going to to take what you give me.

    At HW, there's not much to hold out for.
     
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    What about HWs who cut height?
     
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    Probably because most of the heavyweight today are like 40 years old...meaning they are old school from the days 10-15 years ago or more when people didn't duck each other.

    Hunt, Overeem, Werdum, Fedor, Mir, Barnett, Nelson, arlovski, Oleynik etc.

    If there was a bunch of young heavyweights today they would be ducking more I suppose.
     
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    Georges just dropped a belt to duck a whole division, lol.
     
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    i don't think that's the reason, i think the sport of boxing always had ducking even with old guys
    my guess is that the MMA fanbase don't accept that bullshit, many boxing guys think it's fair to someone avoid a contender just because he is not a draw
     
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