Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by frye666, Mar 7, 2018.
Gi w striking has some cool tech you cant do in mma.
Ah that makes sense
By board, do you mean... thread?
Even the haters know deep down that Fedor was the best fighter of all time.
Fedor is GOAT.
He started losing in sambo just right before he started losing in mma.
Let me guess, to be MMA goat you need at least 100 fights in pajamas and head gear now?
Honestly it does tend to be a feature across the sport, a lot of guys who have an intense style and perhaps just as much intense training don't tend to last long at the top, Shogun, Cain, etc come to mind, by those standards 10 years and 30+ fights isn't bad at all although you could argue coming down from such a high level ment he could keep his spot at the top even when on the decline.
Whatever you think about combat sambo itself I'd say it probably represented that same kind of intense close to full contact training which arguably does give a physiological edge in MMA. If your much more used to a real fight situation its probably a lot easier to "fight smart" and not get carried away in the moment.
Agree with post, Fedor was constantly doing tourneys and fighting. I remember the main thing that kept him out of ufc, right after they bought pride, was that Dana wouldn't agree to let Fedor do Sambo, and it was a huge deal breaker for Fedor, as in Russia he was like Tyson in usa. Fedor like most Russians, are really patriotic and he wouldn't stop doing Sambo to be property of the ufc.
Honestly I suspect the big issue there was that Dana tried to lowball Fedor in 2007, you look at what other Pride guys got in the UFC and whilst yeah they earned a good amount its not at all close to what he was getting on that leaked M-1 deal. By 2009 Dana was talking bigger numbers but by that stage it wasn't really about Fedor anymore, he'd signed with M-1 so it was a case of them and the UFC doing a deal.
Agreed with all, but 2 sticking points were no Sambo and exclusive rights. Dana said at the time they were offering more $, but wouldn't agree to him competing in Sambo tourneys because of the investment. They offered like 2mil per fight and shot at Lesnar who was champ and a huge draw fight. M wanted to come promote fights in Russia as well. The m1 owner said "Finkelchtein said White and the UFC were not flexible. "They refused to give him the right to perform in combat sambo," he said, "and that was very important to him."
I think rumor of thier first offer was like 30 million, for 6 fights or something crazy for that time.
SAmbo looks like mma in a gi to me
Sambo is probably something that might of been overcome by compensation but I just think the UFC in 2007 was playing on the idea they were the only game in town, the majority of ex Pride names needed to be resigned but probably went along with that line of thinking. Vadim saw that being a free agent as P4P level guy was potentially worth a lot of money to new promoters and offered Fedor a deal much better than guys like Crocop, Nog, Shogun, Wand, etc got in the UFC. By 2009 things were very different as it was far more proven that big names could sign for rival orgs hence the UFC starting to talk much bigger money but again it really wasn't up to Fedor then, he might have had some refusal but it was M-1 he was signed to still and them who did deals with promoters.
I think it’s safe to say Fedor ended up A LOT richer then he would of in the UFC. Even if Fedor was like a 5+ time defending champ in the UFC
This is combat sambo, not sambo you noob.
Overeem had way more wars and still fighting against top ten of today, fedor is overrated
Overeem gets KTFO every other fight. Fedor went 10 years undefeated. What's the longest Reem went without a loss? Fedor was #1 for 7 years. How long was Reem ranked #1? Oh, that's right. Never.
Reem was getting KTFO by MWs in PRIDE while Fedor was ruling the greatest Heavyweight era we have ever seen. So then Reem turns his career around with the largest dose of horse juice we have ever seen, which obviously extended and revived his career. He has some great wins but Fedor has many more ranked wins.
Reem is a great fighter and a legend in his own right but Fedor is several levels above Reem.
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