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What does "natural" 154 mean? Winky Wright was a fucking Middleweight by the end of 2005, (when Floyd fought Sharmba Mitchell), Floyd fought Mitchell at Super fucking Lightweight. Oh yeah though, I forgot, Floyd's a bitch-ass pussy for not jumping up 3 weight classes to meet him, after he just got to SLW the previous fight against Arturo Gatti, my bad... But ok I'll humor your 154 argument. Pretty much makes sense, to ask him to come down and STAY DOWN around 154 in order for Winky to get in the ring, does it not? It's already 2 weight classes above the weightclass Floyd JUST got to in SLW. Don't blame Floyd, if Winky was such a "natural 154'er" it shouldnt have been a problem, right? Obviously Winky couldn't do it becasue he was a (using your words) "Natural" Middleweight by then. Still remains to be seen if he could've even made 154lbs at weigh-in, since the fight was so dead. You said it yourself, "8 lbs or more over 154". Hmm 154 + 5 makes 159. Lets go ahead and throw the other limited 3 more pounds = 162 lbs. For a 140lber at the time shitting on him for not signing the fight is pretty lame. But....I get it, you just don't like the guy.Winky was a natural 154 pounder. Bob Arum admitted Mayweather started the talk. Mayweather talked shit on ESPN. They were near the deal, but Floyd held it up, insisting upon Winky not being able to rehydrate 8 lbs or more over 154.
When he fought Marquez at welterweight there was Cotto, Margarito, Paul Williams, a still fresh Andre Berto.
I do judge GGG for fighting a welterweight when there are more interesting options against legitimate middleweights.
When he fought Guerrero there was Pacquiao (yes this one can be somewhat discounted considering all the bullshit perpetrated by both sides for like 5 years), Tim Bradley
Yeah, I'll concede on the retirement fight. But Floyd is at a higher level than most guys in the division, so I would have rather seen him face somewhat not completely shot.
- Marquez fight was Sept 2009 and obviously a tune up comparison marketing fight for a possible Pacman deal; fighting and beating his greatest nemesis in Marquez (as a comeback fight).
- Cotto vs Pacquiao was November 2009...Hard for Cotto nor Pacman to be available.
- Paul Williams was already fighting at JMW by 2008, and wasn't shit all of a draw, nor a name, he hadn't even fought Sergio Martinez yet.
Did we really even know who he was? Imagine this, Floyd chooses to fight no name PWill instead of Pacquiao, Marquez, Mosley, etc. IN 2009 or early 2010, and that fight would've been laughed at for months before and after. Especially after Pwill got comatized by Sergio one year later. PWill would've probably be brought up by you as a no name Floyd fought instead of, the guys I mentioned earlier, if they really had fought. You're just grasping at straws trying to make a case that makes no real concrete sense. You can't judge by hindsight, Paul Williams was a non-factor for a guy fighting the biggest names in the game at the time. If he hadn't gotten on the highlight reel of one of the Greatest Most Brutal Knockouts in the History of Boxing, and instead rolled through people since, you MIGHT have had a valid point. But then Sergio gets rolled by a guy Floyd tooled, and the rest becomes a moot point regardless. PWill was a good prospect but wasn't anything special. He had no Defense. If he was all that, he wouldn't have gotten put to sleep by a no-look haymaker. Sexy was literally looking at the ground when he threw that punch, watch the tape...Come on man.
Being light years against the cream of the crop isnt Mayweather's fault. He beat 6 or 7 Hall of Famers during his career either way (another lofty accomplishment.
But again, this wasn't even where I was going when I thought about the validity of how those rankings came out. But you can keep swinging if you want.
Better yet...Just stay down.
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