Lomachenko vs... wait for it...

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  1. MXZT

    MXZT Purple Belt Platinum Member

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    Salido doesn't want to have a rematch, so how you going to force him?
     
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    moosaev Green Belt

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    Complete nonsense. You accused me of whining about the result/reffing of the Benn fight and called me a hypocrite.The difference is I'm not criticizing you for whining about Salido's tactics, I'm criticizing you for taking that whining to such an extreme that you're actually pretending that Loma won the Salido fight. If you're too stupid to see the difference i can't help you.

    G-man lost, i accepted that. Loma lost, you don't accept that. Get it now?

    Take that stick out of your ass, you're taking criticism of Loma way too personal.
     
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    Seano Hands of bone

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    Oh of course. The old "no one will fight him" mantra. Salido DID want a rematch and actually publicly begged for it on HBO , a guy he beat. It wasn't until Salido went winless for like 4 fights that they mentioned rematch.
     
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    MXZT Purple Belt Platinum Member

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    If they do get a rematch and he beats Salido. What your reaction going to be? Are you going to say it's a good win for Lomachenko?
     
  5. moosaev

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    I remember when Floyd fought Zab Judah, regardless of how highly Floyd was ranked he never had the hyperbolic hype that Loma currently has, not even close. And mind you this is an undefeated Floyd, not a Floyd who LOST to a Salido class fighter.
     
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    Well, the Floyd that fought Canelo would've run circles around Zab. Anyone can play that game.
     
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    Kovalev's "Man Bag" I don't do titles

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    I'm pretending that Loma won the Salido fight? Interesting. Show me where I've said that because I haven't. The only person taking this personal here is you. You've been complaining since the Rigo fight's outcome saying that Loma pulled him up two weight classes. That's a lie. Rigo demanded the fight and got it. He offered to go up to 130 on a dare.

    You've called me an imbecile, stupid, a bitch, etc. Those jimmies were rustled badly. You're a hypocrite, plain and simple. If you want to call out a fighter for ducking below the belt line then why weren't you saying shit about Rigo doing that against Loma? Oh, right, because you're a fangirl.
     
  8. moosaev

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    There has been a lot of revisionism about Floyd, I agree with that.
     
  9. Seano

    Seano Hands of bone

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    <{you!}>

    If a fighter wants to test himself at the elite level, it counts. Win or lose.
     
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    Seano Hands of bone

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    No one wants to see a rematch NOW. If it happens now, I'll call it what it will be. An old fighter sacrificing himself for a payday.
     
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    ironfist05 Silver Belt

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    Salido left the division and turned down the rematch several times, even when he was offered exceptional amounts of money. He wanted nothign to do with Lomachenko, that's not even debatable. Not that I blame him, he woudl have gotten anhilated, and deserved to go out on his own terms, but let's call a spade a spade, or in this case, let's call a duck a duck.

    also, the timeline makes little sense. Salido went winless immediately after beating Loma. If Loma didn't want a rematch, he was a duck, and if he did, he was cherry picking a past his prime fighter. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
     
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    He got better paydays and main event status against Martinez and Vargas.

    Well, they did that in the first fight and it backfired.
     
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    ironfist05 Silver Belt

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    Early offers against Salido were around 500K, at HBO's most generous, Salido was offered something in the 700Ks. If I remember correctly, he got about 400K-500K for Martinez and Vargas. So no, there's really no way to defend Salido here. He ducked harder than Daffy.

    yes, Loma lost, an unfortunate setback for him. Still, doesn't change the fact that Salido avoided a rematch like the plague.
     
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    See, I wonder- Has Lomachenko actually adjusted? Or has he been facing more favorable opponents? Until I see a guy who can get inside on him and rough him up like Salido did, then I remain skeptical.

    Honestly, I see classic Top Rank promotion with Lomachenko. Calling out all these guys but not fighting any of them until they look like garbage. Thats not to say he won't eventually prove me wrong but he's not doing it beating Jason Sosa and 37 year old bantamweights.
     
  15. moosaev

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    The two aren't mutually exclusive though...a young Floyd was indeed better, against a certain type of fighter. But naturally the accrued experience that comes with age allowed him to figure out more awkward fighters in his later years that he may have struggled more with as a youth.
     
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    Salido admitted himself that Lomachenko was a harder fight for him than Vargas and that he'd need to be paid more. I'll take his word for it over yours.
     
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    I stuck a croque monsieur to get this table of idiots to speak
     
  18. MXZT

    MXZT Purple Belt Platinum Member

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    But you didn't answer my question. If Lomachenko beats Salido, do you think it's a good win?
     
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    Have you not seen him low blow people immediately if they hit him a bit low? And he complains to the ref quite a lot now. Those were both things he refused to do in the Salido fight. It's obvious he's made big adjustments. And the sparring stories of him hitting guys hard in the cup and then following with a swift uppercut if they stray too low leaving them gasping for breath. It's pretty obvious he's adapted after the lessons that Salido taught him.
     
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    TS has bad info it seems.

    Imagine.

     

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