Lisdoonvarna: Another shining example of ill thought government immigration pushes

[tonni]

Eh probably the fact that when a certain demographic concentrates in one area, that area becomes a dangerous place for natives to be around?

You can call them "no go zones", you can call them "ghettos", whatever you want, the fact remains that the place changes drastically to the worse. I remember you even admitting that in Belgium certain migrant areas are pretty bad.

Not sure why you're playing dumb here with semantics about "no go zones", use whatever term you'd like. The fact is that the Irish residents of that town don't want these concentrated areas in their place of living, yet seems like they'll get the enrichment Belgium, France, Germany, Sweden have gotten anyway.

I like terms to be accurate. If you talk about no-go zones you should at least know what you're talking about, instead of making it a catch-all term for areas where a lot of immigrants reside.

It's not about areas changing "drastically for the worse", it's about using accurate terms to describe certain situations.

No-go zone is an area where law enforcement, or ambulances and the fire department, won't come because it's too dangerous. It can also indeed mean an area where it is too dangerous to walk if you're not part of the neighborhood's demographic.

All I want from @Bloodworth is to get some cities and neighborhoods where this situation is existing or use a different word.

I know the neighborhoods and the cities in Belgium and France at least. The situation is serious and that's why I don't like it when clowns who don't know what they're talking about use it to incorrectly.

 

[tonni]

This is one of the areas in Greece.
Don't you hear the lady.say kids can't go to school, people can't go to work?

It's a cut video. You don't even know which city. You don't know what a no-go zone is.

 

[Teppodama]

However, unlike you I'm Irish and have been to Lisdoonvarna over the last 30 years. For a start there are more than 300 people living there, it's triple that. There used to be more but after the festival was cancelled the tourist business dried up, hence why the hotel are taking them on "direct provision" ie it's a temporary move to house people until they get sorted. The same as happened to the small town I was living in 30 years ago.

So maybe try pushing your population change shite somewhere else.




18% of people living in Ireland are foreign born or does it only matter if they're not white ?

Did you even watch the video before you posted ? I doubt it because it's not cricket they're playing at the school it's hurling and football.

So, apparently the IrishTimes and every other site reporting on the issue is wrong on the actual number of residents in the town.

Oh, only till they "get sorted" huh?

 

[The ScorpioN]

I like terms to be accurate. If you talk about no-go zones you should at least know what you're talking about, instead of making it a catch-all term for areas where a lot of immigrants reside.

It's not about areas changing "drastically for the worse", it's about using accurate terms to describe certain situations.

No-go zone is an area where law enforcement, or ambulances and the fire department, won't come because it's too dangerous. It can also indeed mean an area where it is too dangerous to walk if you're not part of the neighborhood's demographic.

All I want from @Bloodworth is to get some cities and neighborhoods where this situation is existing or use a different word.

I know the neighborhoods and the cities in Belgium and France at least. The situation is serious and that's why I don't like it when clowns who don't know what they're talking about use it to incorrectly.

But he isn't using it incorrectly, he's correctly saying that if you put 1/3 of a town's population from that demographic in that town, there's a very good chance it'll turn into a no go zone, like we've seen countless times before.

Also notice, before Merkel finally admitted that there are in fact no go zones, that notion was laughed at. Now, apparently overnight, that changed. But instead of laughing at the notion, the actual definition of no go zones is getting quibbled instead of addressing the main point, which is why create these zones (whatever you want to call them) in the first place.

 

[Bald1]

Oh, only till they "get sorted" huh?

The migrant crisis kicked into high gear two and a half years ago. This will all get sorted out aaaaany minute now....

 

[Bloodworth]

It's a cut video. You don't even know which city. You don't know what a no-go zone is.

I been there personally to see the damage. Old girlfriend had a summer home there. Built all with American products shipped over the course of 5 years.

It was a sick build. Government called a few years ago to tell them its had been ransacked and destroyed.

When we went one summer we got a police escort to the home along the water.
The entire dock area is a war zone of immigrants from all over.
All the Homes and business are now occupied by refugees who just took over.
People were literally forced out of their homes

 

[The ScorpioN]

It's a cut video. You don't even know which city. You don't know what a no-go zone is.

This is like arguing evolution with TCK.

If you don't define every single phenomenon (along with predictions, pathways, environmental pressures, genetic drifts, random mutations, etc) in the assertion that organisms evolve, you don't understand evolution, therefore your argument is invalid and therefore evolutionary theory is invalid.

Yet it is still very apparent.

 

[deise69]

I don't know much about D-level sports, you'll have to excuse my ignorance.

Irish (including dual-Irish/other): 86.9%, UK: 2.5%, Other EU 27: 6.1%, Other Europe: 0.7%, Asia: 1.5%, Africa: 0.9%, USA: 0.2%.

I guess if you consider having British, Scot, Welsh + other Europeans as diversity then yeah, you have 87% of Irish population, as opposed to 92%.

So you'll just double down on your ignorance instead.

The top 5 five foreign born nationalities in the 4.8M people living here are
1. Polish 122,515
2. UK 103,113
3. Lithuanian 36,552
4. Latvian 19,333
5. Brazilian 13,640

The remaining groups over 10,000 are French, German , Italian, Indian, Latvian, Spanish and Americans.

Only 2 of that 12 speak the same language and the rest are culturally different. Or do you think Mexicans and Americans are the same because they share a border too.

 

[The ScorpioN]

So you'll just double down on your ignorance instead.

The top 5 five foreign born nationalities in the 4.8M people living here are
1. Polish 122,515
2. UK 103,113
3. Lithuanian 36,552
4. Latvian 19,333
5. Brazilian 13,640

The remaining groups over 10,000 are French, German , Italian, Indian, Latvian, Spanish and Americans.

Only 2 of that 12 speak the same language and the rest are culturally different. Or do you think Mexicans and Americans are the same because they share a border too.

No, you're right.

I just assumed you used diversity as it is used in the common vernacular. That's just my American centered world view showing.

I'm very much in agreement with you that Latvians, Russians, Germans, etc even if they're white, can still diversify another white culture. Diversity doesn't entail color.

 

[Bloodworth]

I like terms to be accurate. If you talk about no-go zones you should at least know what you're talking about, instead of making it a catch-all term for areas where a lot of immigrants reside.

It's not about areas changing "drastically for the worse", it's about using accurate terms to describe certain situations.

No-go zone is an area where law enforcement, or ambulances and the fire department, won't come because it's too dangerous. It can also indeed mean an area where it is too dangerous to walk if you're not part of the neighborhood's demographic.

All I want from @Bloodworth is to get some cities and neighborhoods where this situation is existing or use a different word.

I know the neighborhoods and the cities in Belgium and France at least. The situation is serious and that's why I don't like it when clowns who don't know what they're talking about use it to incorrectly.

https://www.rt.com/news/419978-germany-merkel-no-go-zones/

What will you say next, she doesn't know her country or the right terminology?

Oh she doesn't name a specific city , must be lying.

Google no go zones in France and Sweden.

 

[Bloodworth]

Not only Merkel said no-go zones but an official from Sweden said it earlier about their country. And for them to openly say it you know it has to be bad.

No shit, these doubters are real pieces of work.

 

[deise69]

So, apparently the IrishTimes and every other site reporting on the issue is wrong on the actual number of residents in the town.

Oh, only till they "get sorted" huh?

https://www.citypopulation.de/php/ireland.php?cityid=0637

Lisdoonvarna population as of 24/6/16 was 829, want to try again ?

 

[tonni]

This is like arguing evolution with TCK.

 

[tonni]

https://www.rt.com/news/419978-germany-merkel-no-go-zones/

What will you say next, she doesn't know her country or the right terminology?

Oh she doesn't name a specific city , must be lying.

Google no go zones in France and Sweden.

I never said that I don't believe in no-go zones, I just wanted to hear from your useless mouth what you think a no-go zone is and where they are.

It took you 6 posts to come up with "Merkel said it".

 

[tonni]

But he isn't using it incorrectly, he's correctly saying that if you put 1/3 of a town's population from that demographic in that town, there's a very good chance it'll turn into a no go zone, like we've seen countless times before.

Also notice, before Merkel finally admitted that there are in fact no go zones, that notion was laughed at. Now, apparently overnight, that changed. But instead of laughing at the notion, the actual definition of no go zones is getting quibbled instead of addressing the main point, which is why create these zones (whatever you want to call them) in the first place.

So do you mean an actual no-go zone, or just a scary zone? Because there is a difference.

 

[HomerThompson]

Is Europe the Caliphate yet?

 

[Teppodama]

https://www.citypopulation.de/php/ireland.php?cityid=0637

Lisdoonvarna population as of 24/6/16 was 829, want to try again ?

You quote a statistic from 2016 and yet articles written about the issue just days ago state a population of 300. So, who's right?

Multiple articles, multiple sources all with the same population stat, all within the past month, all claim 300 residents. Why would that be?

https://radio.rte.ie/radio1highlights/drivetime-lisdoonvarna-direct-provision/

 

[The ScorpioN]

So do you mean an actual no-go zone, or just a scary zone? Because there is a difference.

I mean that the distinction makes no difference to the residents of that town.

 

[tonni]

I mean that the distinction makes no difference to the residents of that town.

at this point, so agree to disagree.

 

[Bloodworth]

I never said that I don't believe in no-go zones, I just wanted to hear from your useless mouth what you think a no-go zone is and where they are.

It took you 6 posts to come up with "Merkel said it".

Because is been well known, you were just resisting. # resist huh