Light weight belt was an unfair present for Conor | Page 2

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  1. DannyNL The King is BACK, baby!

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    LOL@ unfair present. Incase you missed it, Conor had to go out and fight for both his titles.

    You want to talk about presents, look at Jose Aldo: he's never won a UFC belt, he was "gifted" one twice. They gave him a belt when he came in from the WEC, and they gave him a belt when Conor vacated. Those are unfair gifts. Conor earned both his belts via vicious brutal KOs.
     
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  2. murat duman White Belt

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    In my opinion conor was given an immediate shot just because Dana was aware that conor was a quick flash of weed which was about to burn out and he tried to warm up his hands over him rushly, Dana is a smart guy (but not that smart because in this way he lost respect, look at Mousasi), he already knew that Conor has no future in ufc
     
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    You don't know who Eddie Alvarez is, do you?
     
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    I know man, he is very talented guy but not a true champ, and his trash talking challenge against conor was so fake
     
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    Stop thinking
     
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    A man that destroyed Eddie so easily, by definition, deserved to be in there with him. I think you will find it was Eddie who 'had no business in there' as Conor said in the post fight interview.
     
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    What about Naty who made conor tap so easily
     
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    I agree TS, Conor was like 20 pounds and more heavier than all his opponent in 145
     
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    He was given an immediate shot because he is the biggest draw that the ufc has ever had, and that the cut to 45 was becoming an issue.
     
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    The point is that there were reasons other than popularity for Conor to get his shot at the LW champ, whom he then destroyed. Gastelum, the analog that you introduced to try to make a point, is not really analogous to Conor for those reasons.
    The UFC is a prize-fighting business. There are many factors that go into setting up title fights. In-cage performance is one. Out-of-cage performance is another. Adaptability/dedication to the company is yet another. Conor excels at all of these. Gastelum and Mousasi do not, at least not to the same degree as Conor.

    How do you think the UFC's taking these factors into account is going to cause them to suffer?
     
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    Because many fighters started to consider that title shots are unfair presents, look at Mousasi and Khabib or Ferguson
    There are videos on internet, Mousasi complaining about this.
    for example DC-Silva, GSP-Bisbing, Conor-Eddie, Bisbing-Hendo
    you can make it once, let's call it a superfight
    but in any division no 1 contender has to wait 6 months or no 2 has to wait maybe a year for this kind of situations
    and fighters losing respect and commitment for ufc
    what is the point of stealing years of a fighter, who dedicates many years of hardworking, by making them wait for the unfair presents that were presented to the "lucky" guys
    that is why many fighters believe that ufc is not a fair organization and that is why ufc will suffer
     
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    stop believing in fairy tales. there is no Santa Claus ;)
     
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    The point is money. All those fights, except maybe DC-Silva, were put together to make money because the fighters involved had done what I mentioned above: put on compelling performances in the ring, created interested followers outside the ring, and helped the company by being flexible with scheduling and/or putting time aside for TUF. For the Cormier fight, Silva showed he was a company man by being a late replacement. I wouldn't characterize these guys as being "lucky"; they earned it.

    Guys like Mousasi, Khabib, and Ferguson have to go out and do the same.
     
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  14. Martinezzz Double Yellow Card

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    Still Conor KTFO 2 champs and was 2 division champ something Naty will never do
    [​IMG]
     
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    The double champ does whatever the fuck he wants.

    TS, your real problem is low testosterone + flipping burgers and asking if you want fires with your order.
     
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    No shit, Sherlock. He was gifted the LW title shot and we all know it, including his delusional fans. They desperately wanted him to be a two-division champ.
     
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    They could have had a can crusher like Fedor in UFC but, he was busy ducking or fighting Choi. Mcgoat keeps talking shit and punching people out. Khabob ducks hours before his fights (probably had a left hand of doom night terror) and Tony ducks a MJ rematch. These guys don't belong in the same arena.
     
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    He also tapped to a rear naked choke from a gatekeeper, another thing Nate will never do.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Doesn't matter if it's deserved or not. He won the belt, he is the champ. If he fought 10 other guys first, he would still beat Eddie. Eddie got nothing for Conor. You haters just hoping other people can beat Conor and prevent him from claiming the title. There's a reason why Eddie is champ. Beating the champ, makes you the champ.

    Eddie is no chump neither. He was the Bellator champ and was the champ in almost every organization he was in, including a WW division. Eddie was a 170lb WW champ.

    Not anyone can skip line and become champ. There were many others who skipped line but never made it happen because they were simply not at that level yet. Joe Soto for example skipped everyone and debuted against TJ but came up short.

    It's a dumb hater argument for saying Conor is not a real champ for skipping line. He made the current champ looked like a fool. If there's a paper champ, it's DC and Aldo. Conor is the real FW and LW champ.
     
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    Strong start
    Poor finish

    A lot like sex
     
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