Iraqi Kurdistan's President Masoud Barzani resigns after Independence push backfired

Peshmerga, Iraqi forces confirm agreement on pre-Mosul operation borders
Oct 17, 2017

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ERBIL, Kurdistan Region (Kurdistan 24) – A Kurdistan Region Peshmerga Ministry spokesperson on Tuesday confirmed the borders of the Iraqi army and Kurdish forces would be based on the front lines held before the start of the Mosul operation on Oct. 17, 2016.

Based on an agreement signed between the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) and the central government of Iraq, under the supervision of the US-led coalition, the Peshmerga will remain in control of front lines held before the Mosul operation began, Peshmerga Ministry spokesperson Halgurd Hikmat said.

“Both sides agreed and will be committed to that arrangement and, in the coming days, the borderlines will be reorganized as per the agreement,” the spokesperson added.

The Mosul liberation was a historic moment in the relationship between Kurdish Peshmerga and Iraqi forces as the two worked together to defeat the Islamic State (IS).

However, since the Kurdistan Region’s independence vote, tensions have increased between Erbil and Baghdad leading to clashes in Kirkuk on Sunday night.

On Monday, both Iraqi forces and Iranian-backed Shia militia Hashd al-Shaabi took control of Kirkuk, which has been under the protection of Peshmerga since mid-2014 after the Iraqi army collapsed and failed to defend the city from IS.

Early Tuesday, Yezidi (Ezidi) units in the Peshmerga ranks said they reached an agreement with Ezidis within the Hashd al-Shaabi to let the militia enter the city without “any fighting or bloodshed.”

Although the Iraqi and Shia forces had not yet entered the area, Kurdish Peshmerga forces also withdrew from Makhmour and Gwer areas south of Erbil.

http://www.kurdistan24.net/en/news/04877e30-a4a7-4f47-968b-999af09fcd48
 
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Iraqi Forces Retake All Oil Fields in Disputed Areas as Kurds Retreat
By DAVID ZUCCHINO | OCT. 17, 2017

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Iraqi security forces on the northern edge of Kirkuk as people returned to the city on Tuesday.

BAGHDAD — Kurdish separatists in northern Iraq surrendered all disputed oil fields to Iraq’s military on Tuesday, retreating in the face of overwhelming force that appeared to halt, at least for now, their independence hopes from a referendum held less than a month ago.

In a swift and largely nonviolent operation that came a day after Iraqi forces reclaimed the contested city of Kirkuk from the Kurdish separatists, Baghdad’s troops occupied all oil-producing facilities that the separatists had held for three years, and which had become critical to the Kurdish autonomous region’s economic vitality.

The loss of those resources will erase billions of dollars in export earnings that has flowed to the Kurdish region from the sale of oil. Kurds took over the disputed areas adjacent to their region after Iraqi troops fled an assault by the Islamic State extremist organization in 2014.

Those areas were included in the Sept. 25 referendum in which the Kurdish region voted overwhelmingly for independence. The vote angered not only the central government in Baghdad and the United States, but also neighbors Turkey and Iran, which have sizable Kurdish populations.

The Iraqi military operation to retake the disputed areas was aided by an agreement with a Kurdish faction to withdraw from them peacefully.

The territorial surrender, and its economic importance, raised new doubts about the political future of the Kurdish president, Massoud Barzani, the driving force behind the referendum, who was clearly outmaneuvered by the Iraqi prime minister, Haider al-Abadi.

At a news conference in Baghdad on Tuesday, Mr. Abadi said the referendum “is finished and has become a thing of the past.”

Mr. Barzani and other supporters of the referendum “took a very bad situation and made it worse,” said Denise Natali, a Middle East specialist at the National Defense University in Baghdad.

“Barzani badly miscalculated,” she said. “He played it all wrong.”

In his first public statement since Iraqi forces launched the takeover operation early Monday, Mr. Barzani blamed members of the rival Kurdish faction for having withdrawn from contested areas and said that had “unilaterally paved the way for the attack.”

Mr. Barzani seemed to warn Baghdad not to advance beyond those areas. “All resources will be allocated for the security and stability of the Kurdistan Region,” the statement said.

Nonetheless, it was unclear how much support Mr. Barzani had to back up his bluster. He is isolated in the Kurdish region, where Baghdad has cut off international flights. Iran and Turkey have moved to erase Kurdish control of border crossings.

Outgunned and outmanned by the Iraqi military, Kurdish fighters appeared to be in headlong retreat on Tuesday. A senior commander of Kurdish forces defending oil fields outside the city of Dibis, about 30 miles northwest of Kirkuk, said in a telephone interview that his troops had pulled out late Monday night as Iraqi troops closed in.

The commander, who asked not to be identified because he was not authorized to speak with journalists, said Kurdish forces, known as pesh merga, had received orders to leave Dibis from superiors in Erbil, the capital of the autonomous region.

Kurdish fighters and Iraqi government troops are both part of the American-led coalition battling Islamic State militants in Iraq.

The Americans did not interfere with the Iraqi military’s takeover of the Kurdish-held areas. The coalition and the United States Embassy in Baghdad urged both sides to avoid violence and focus fighting the militants.

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Iraqi forces at an oil field west of Kirkuk on Tuesday

The United States had always made clear to Mr. Barzani that it opposed the referendum, saying it would foment ethnic conflict, destabilize Iraq and undermine the fight against the Islamic State. Baghdad took steps to isolate the landlocked Kurdish region after the referendum, with the help of Iran and Turkey, and then began the assault on oil-rich Kirkuk Province early Monday.

American troops were in the province but had no role in the Iraqi military operation, said Col. Ryan Dillon, the spokesman for the coalition in Baghdad.

The loss of the Kirkuk oil fields could cripple the Kurdish region’s economy, costing 70 percent of its daily oil production, said Luay al-Khatteeb, the director of the Iraq Energy Institute in Baghdad.

“You can’t sustain a state with just 30 percent of your oil production,” he said.

Kurdish operators produce 790,000 barrels a day, including 550,000 barrels from Kirkuk Province and other contested areas, Mr. Khatteeb said. The region exports 590,000 barrels a day, with the remainder used for domestic refineries and consumption.

Oil analysts say the region has earned about $8 billion a year from oil exports. Baghdad, which has accused the Kurds of stealing the oil, cut off federal payments to the Kurdish region in 2014.

The Iraqi military triumph over the Kurds came as the coalition continued to battle Islamic State militants clinging to a strip of desert land and the border city of Qaim, in western Anbar Province near the Syrian border. Iraqi forces, in some instances aided by Kurdish fighters, have driven the militants from most of Iraq since they took over nearly a third of the country three years ago.

Elsewhere in Iraq on Tuesday, Iraqi militia fighters allied with government troops took control of disputed areas in and around Sinjar, a northern region populated by Yazidis, a religious minority. A Yazidi militia commander in Mosul said pesh merga fighters withdrew from the area as part of a negotiated agreement.

More than 2,000 Yazidis were massacred in 2014 by Islamic State militants who enslaved Yazidi women and girls. The city of Sinjar was liberated in 2015 by pesh merga fighters backed by American airstrikes.

In the northern city of Mosul, a commander of Iraqi military units said in a telephone interview on Tuesday that the Iraqi government was negotiating with Kurdish leaders on a Kurdish withdrawal from disputed areas around Mosul near the Kurdish autonomous region.

The commander said pesh merga forces had already withdrawn from some local areas, known as the Ninevah plains in Ninevah Province. He asked not to be identified because he was not authorized to speak with journalists.

To the south, the Iraqi military command in Baghdad said Iraqi troops had taken over several disputed areas in Diyala Province held since 2014 by pesh merga forces, who withdrew early Tuesday.

In a sign that life in the city of Kirkuk was returning to normal, hundreds of families — most of them Kurdish — who had fled the city as Iraqi forces entered Monday began coming home.

Mr. Abadi has assured Kurdish civilians that they would be protected by Iraqi forces and federal and local police. Kirkuk, a multiethnic city of about one million, is roughly 45 percent Kurdish, 38 percent Arab, 15 percent Turkmens and 2 percent Christian.

Roads connecting Kirkuk to Baghdad and to Erbil, closed during the military operation, were re-opened Tuesday.

“We are all Iraqis,” Maj. Mohammed Ismael, a commander with Iraqi government counterterrorism troops in Kirkuk, said in an interview. “Kirkuk is now back in the heart of Iraq.”

Ali Riyadh, 28, an Iraqi army soldier dining at an expensive restaurant in Kirkuk Tuesday, said, “We came to Kirkuk yesterday and today I’m having lunch in this nice place. It was easier than we expected.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/17/world/middleeast/iraq-kurds-kirkuk.html
 
The disputed areas were always supposed go back to the central goverment. You won't see Bagdad roll into KRG proper. I can symphatize with the turkmen and arabs in the area that doesn't want to be a apart of a fiercely ethno-nationalist state run by a dictator. Do kurds even make up half of the population in and around Kirkuk?

Same with Shingal and the Yezidis, Yezidis are only kurds when it is suitable. It was the KRG Peshmerga that went up and fled in the middle of night after promising protection to the Yezidis leaving them to be slaughtered by ISIS. ISIS was knocking on the door to Erbil when the US intervened, they have benefited as much as the goverment from that.
 
Lol, you must have missed the entire point of the Syrian civil war and why it is so important for Assad to survive if you think Syrian Arabs are more civilized

They're "civilized" at the end of a gun barrel and when they're outside of the control of the regime, women have to cover up and minorities have to leave

The Kurds, specifically the Iraqi Kurds are also viewed positively for several reasons, but not the stupid one you brought up. Probably the biggest one is that Americans were always safe in Iraqi Kurdistan but in the Arab sections of Iraq, Americans are subject to kidnappings and murder.

They also have been attempting to break off for decades now and are far more organized than the Arabs, so we're sympathetic to a friendly people who are being held back by a hostile people

Meanwhile Christians are content being buttfucked by Muslims.

If the Iraqi Christians had been attempting to break away from Iraq for decades, are friendly to the West, and are well organized with their own leadership and institutions, we would most likely view them in the same light as the Iraqi Kurds

Iraqi Christians numbers were reduced by a factor of over 75% since Bush invaded due to murder and people fleeing. They're actively targeted by Arabs and Kurds.

Unlike the Kurds, they don't get funding and support from America.
 
real shame they havent contributed shit to civilization in the last 1000 years though. Well, other than a distrust of bags of trash at the side of the road and the inability to carry liquids on an airplane.

The Assyrians?

Assyrians are not Arabs you fucking idiot. They're indigenous to Iraq.

There has not been a single Assyrian terrorist.

You're so stupid it's painful.

And the last 1000 years? The men who produced the most works in the House of Wisdom were Assyrians and Christians. Aristotle in his entirety survived only because Arab caliphs ordered conversion of his works from Greek to Arabic because the Assyrians were the only ones educated in all of these languages.

There's plenty more to be said.

You're a dumbass though lol.
 


Not sure if I agree with this way of thinking.

If anything, people would wise up and be sure to get international supports, starting from their allies, first before unilaterally hold Independence referendums.

Washington already warned the Kurdish leader that the U.S will not support his referendum, especially when it's done without the greenlight from the Central goverment, so there's no reason for them to expect anything different.

Baghdad is going to reclaim the areas outside of the internationally-recognized autonomous region of Iraqi Kurdistan, and that's it. Things will go back to the way it was before the Toyota Hilux Caliphate, and perhaps the Kurds will be able to negotiate a better revenue-sharing deal now that Baghdad knows their worth against terrorist invaders.
 
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George W. blew a great opportunity to support this a decade or more ago imo. An independent Kurdistan seemed only a matter of time but we'd have had a better start with them if we'd helped them from the get go.
I agree, they really should have let that country fracture three ways after Saddam was removed. That whole area would be in much less turmoil.
 
This thread surprised me by how many posters have their heads screwed on straight and appreciate the sacrifice Kurds have been making in combatting terrorism and arms dealing in the region

Make all the jokes you need, the kurdish people are resilient and brave as hell. I would have fled that region a long time ago, meanwhile they're swapping unpaid shifts on security checkpoints under constant threat of death

Give them a private island Vince Camuto, we know you have the dough
 
Germany to stop training Kurdish peshmerga fighters in Iraq

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Germany will temporarily stop training Kurdish peshmerga forces in Iraq in the wake of the conflict between Baghdad and the Kurds. Germany has been a major partner of the peshmerga, providing them weapons and training.

Germany said on Wednesday it will halt its training mission in northern Iraq as it seeks unity in a country that has seen tensions soar between the government and the Kurds in the past few days.

Germany has been a major partner of the Kurdish peshmerga forces and has supported its war efforts against the "Islamic State" (IS) since September 2014.

It has supplied 2,000 assault rifle and machine guns, as well as other weapons valued at around 90 million euros. Some 130 German soldiers are stationed in Erbil (in picture above) to train the Kurdish fighters.

"We had agreed last Friday with the foreign office to pause the training so no wrong signal would be sent," German Defence Minister Ursula von der Leyen told reporters on Wednesday.

Tensions have escalated between the Iraqi government in Baghdad and the Kurds, two allies in the campaign against the IS jihadists, since September 25 when the Kurds overwhelmingly voted for independence in a non-binding referendum.

Responding to the referendum, the Iraqi army, supported by Iranian-backed Shiite militias known as Popular Mobilization Units (PMU), launched an operation to push back the Kurds to positions they held in northern Iraq in June 2014, before they nearly doubled territory under their control following the collapse of Iraqi army during an IS advance.

Germany had warned the Kurds against holding the "one-sided" referendum and had called on the two sides to avoid any steps that could lead to a further escalation of the situation.

A government spokesman on Wednesday said the suspension of the training was temporary and any decision on resuming it will be subject to daily examination of the situation in Iraq, which faces the possibility of a new civil war.

Kurdish forces withdraw

Iraqi government forces said on Wednesday they had successfully confined the Kurds to their long-standing three provinces in northern Iraq that make up the constitutionally recognized autonomous Kurdistan region.

On Monday, Iraq's Prime Minister Haidar al-Abadi ordered troops and PMU forces to retake Kirkuk and reassert Baghdad's control over the oil-rich province.

Baghdad government forces then on Tuesday retook control of all of Nineveh province, which includes the major city of Mosul, after the Peshmerga pulled back. The Mosul hydro-electric dam, northwest of the city, was among the positions recaptured.

"As of today we reversed the clock back to 2014," the Iraqi army commander, who asked not to be identified, told Reuters news agency.

The largely bloodless military advance has dealt a major blow to the finances of the autonomous Kurdish region, which had derived much of its revenues from exports of oil from Kirkuk's rich oil and gas resources.
http://m.dw.com/en/germany-to-stop-training-kurdish-peshmerga-fighters-in-iraq/a-41016356
 
supporting kurdistan was one of the main goals of the us-coalition
but when erdogan survived the coup, it all went to shit
 
Following fall of Kirkuk, Iraqi PM says Kurdistan Referendum is 'over'

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The Prime Minister of Iraq Haider al-Abadi

ERBIL, Kurdistan Region (Kurdistan 24) – The independence referendum in the Kurdistan Region is over, and it belongs to the past, said Iraq Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi on Tuesday.

During his weekly briefing, Abadi reaffirmed that Iraqi Forces and the Shiite Hashd al-Shaabi militia were in full control of the multi-ethnic province of Kirkuk following Monday's assault.

“The referendum is over now, and it has become history,” Abadi said, referring to the Kurdistan Region’s vote for independence on Sep. 25, which saw nearly 93 percent voting in favor of secession from Iraq.

“Now, I call for dialogue to resolve our issues within the framework of the Constitution of Iraq.”

The Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) has refused to disavow the result of the referendum, a pre-condition required by Baghdad to initiate a dialogue with the Region on unresolved matters.

Following the incursion by the Iranian-backed Shiite militia and Iraqi Forces into the multi-ethnic city of Kirkuk, many videos and photos have surfaced on social media networks showing Iraqi units mistreating the Kurdistan national flag and burning Kurdish houses. Some also show Kurds being forced to evacuate the town of Tuz Khurmatu and slinging insults at portraits of Kurdish leaders in Kirkuk.

“Any assault on Kurds is an assault on us… We will not allow this type of aggression,” the Iraqi Premier said.

Kurdish officials revealed that dozens of Kurdish Peshmerga and volunteers have been killed and injured by the Iraqi armed groups in Kirkuk.

Following Abadi’s speech, the President of the Kurdistan Region, Masoud Barzani, released a statement affirming the independence dream will one day be achieved.

“We never wanted to fight, but fighting has always been imposed on us,” President Barzani explained. “We assure the people of the Kurdistan Region that we will do whatever is necessary to defend our achievements and provide security for our people.”

http://www.kurdistan24.net/en/news/45ad5ce7-9f98-4a8d-90b4-1656a8583874
 
Iraq has seized Kurdistan’s oil, but Kurdistan controls Iraq’s internet

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Two days ago, on Oct. 16, the Iraqi army seized oil fields near in northern Iraq that had been operated by the Kurdish Regional Government (KRG).

This threatens the livelihood of Iraq’s Kurdish region, which depended on the oil to finance both its economy and its hopes of independence, for which its citizens voted in a referendum last month. Since 2014, the KRG has been selling its oil internationally, against the wishes of the central Iraqi government, including through a deal signed by then-Exxon CEO and now US secretary of State Rex Tillerson.

The Kurds have one bit of leverage, though: Thanks to quirks of geography and politics, they control the bulk of Iraqi internet access.

Two days ago, on Oct. 16, the Iraqi army seized oil fields near in northern Iraq that had been operated by the Kurdish Regional Government (KRG).

This threatens the livelihood of Iraq’s Kurdish region, which depended on the oil to finance both its economy and its hopes of independence, for which its citizens voted in a referendum last month. Since 2014, the KRG has been selling its oil internationally, against the wishes of the central Iraqi government, including through a deal signed by then-Exxon CEO and now US secretary of State Rex Tillerson.

The Kurds have one bit of leverage, though: Thanks to quirks of geography and politics, they control the bulk of Iraqi internet access.

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In 2014, Oracle Dyn, a company that tracks global internet traffic, found that 73% of Iraqi traffic was routed to the rest of the world through two Kurdish internet service providers, Newroz and IQ Network. At the time, two in five adults, or about half of Iraqi men, told Gallup surveyors (pdf) they used the internet in the previous week, with Kurds the most likely to have done so.

There are two other main ways for data to get out of the country: An undersea cable coming ashore from the Persian Gulf at al-Faw and overland fiberoptic cables west, through Jordan. Going west is challenging because of the barren geography of western Iraq, combined with the presence of ISIL militants who sabotage communications infrastructure. Indeed, in 2014, at the height of ISIL’s power, the Kurdish data route helped keep Iraq connected.

The route through al-Faw had its own problems: Bureaucracy and corruption. The Iraqi government has nationalized all internet infrastructure, slowing investment and increasing prices. The costs of data transit across Iraqi government networks can be hundreds or thousands of times more higher than what would be expected in developed economies or is offered by the Kurds, Doug Madory, director of internet analysis at Oracle Dyn, says.

The Kurds are aware that the internet routes give them an economic weapon against the central government. Ahead of the clashes at the oil fields, a spokesman for KRG president Massoud Barzani threatened (paywall) to cut off internet access in Iraq, as well as other services such as mobile phone connections and cement manufacturing. Given Iraq’s relatively low internet penetration, the last two threats may be more potent, but disrupting internet access would hit directly at Baghdad’s elites.

Madory says that the Kurds could effectively cut off Iraq from its largest digital gateway to the rest of the internet, at least temporarily; Iraq’s telcos would try to find another source of high-capacity access but it would likely take time. The problem for Kurdistan is that cutting off Iraq would mean cutting off a large source of revenue for Kurdish companies.

“Doing that would kill those businesses, I don’t think they would take that decision very lightly,” Madory says. “People have been attracted to Kurdistan as a place to do business and get a square deal.” The bind highlights the challenge of separatist movements from Catalonia to Scotland: The economic price of freedom can be high.

https://qz.com/1104733/kurdistan-th...-in-return-for-seizure-of-kurdish-oil-fields/
 
The bind highlights the challenge of separatist movements from Catalonia to Scotland: The economic price of freedom can be high.

Oh the poor repressed peoples of Scotland and Catalonia.

Economic reasons were the main motivators there prior to the surge of Nationalistin narratives; now that it emerges the prior is an Illusion, they cling to the latter.
 
Oh the poor repressed peoples of Scotland and Catalonia.

Economic reasons were the main motivators there prior to the surge of Nationalistin narratives; now that it emerges the prior is an Illusion, they cling to the latter.

On the sliding scale from Economics to Nationalism as the driver for Independence, I think it's Catalonia -> Scotland -> Kurdistan.

If Iraq/Turkey/Syria give the Kurds the choice to give up ALL their oil in exchange for an independent country to call their own in the territories they're currently living in, I think the Kurds would actually take Independence.
 
This thread surprised me by how many posters have their heads screwed on straight and appreciate the sacrifice Kurds have been making in combatting terrorism and arms dealing in the region

Make all the jokes you need, the kurdish people are resilient and brave as hell. I would have fled that region a long time ago, meanwhile they're swapping unpaid shifts on security checkpoints under constant threat of death

Give them a private island Vince Camuto, we know you have the dough

They gonna lose all that good faith if they start blaiming us for the failed push for independence though.

 

That guy wouldn't be stomping on the flag if he wasn't being recorded
 
Iraq has seized the Kurds' oil, but the Kurds controls Iraq’s internet

So the Kurds can't dive their cars anymore but Iraqis can't shitpost on sherdog.
Tough call.
 
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