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Discussion in 'Weapons and Tactics' started by Cubo de Sangre, Aug 6, 2014.

  1. Cubo de Sangre Gold Belt

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    ***Updated 11/28/16***

    I like guns. I'm not mechanically inclined. The AR seems like the most versatile tool in the history of self-defense. I decided to build one from scratch. The problem is I'm indecisive and I've got champagne tastes. That means I need to build at least two rifles so that I can better sample the options. My goal isn't to build the most cost-effective rifle. It's to build what I want, taking into consideration aesthetics and practicality more so than price.

    I've begun with the lowers. So far here's what I've got for parts. I'll update as I add or switch out. Pictures of the parts and build process to follow.

    Even if you don't follow the thread let me know what you think of the builds. Good or bad, I'm curious to know your opinions.

    FINISHED

    (***Note that I switched out the lower at the end of the build. The lower this one replaced will be used in Build #5.)


    LOWER

    Stripped Lower: Spike's (No Logo)
    Buttstock: ACE Skeleton stock
    Sling QD Attachment: ACE UMPB
    Trigger: Franklin Armory BFS Binary
    Trigger Guard: TacFire
    Grip: Ergo Suregrip Ambi
    Bolt Catch: Phase 5 Tactical EBRv2
    Safety Selector: Franklin Armory (BFS-Compatible)
    Mag Catch: Norgon Ambi
    Mag Release: Seekins Precision
    Buffer Spring: JP Tuned & Polished
    Front/Rear Takedown Pins: Strike Industries


    UPPER
    Stripped Upper: MAS Defense Slickside
    Barrel: Voodoo Innovations
    5.56x45, 16", Mid-Length, 1:7 Twist, .750 Gas Block, Government Countour, 4150 CM, Melonite
    Muzzle Device: Omega Manufacturing Faux-Suppressor
    Bolt Carrier Group: AIM Surpluss
    Handguard: AR15 Solutions 15" Free Float Tube
    Handguard Wrap: 3M Vetrap
    Charging Handle: Stag Arms
    Gas Block: Omega Manufacturing Micro Screw-On
    Optic: Aimpoint H-1 Micro
    Optic Mount: LaRue QD Low-Rise
    Optic Cover: Tango Down

    (**** Pictures show Raptor charging handle instead of the Stag standard GI. Future modifications could include filing down some Battle Arms safety lever to fit the BFS cam, treating the bolt catch logo with Aluminum Black, and similarly covering up the Aimpoint markings.)


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    For those not familiar with the Franklin Armory binary trigger, here's a guy showing what it can do.


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    LOWER

    Stripped Lower: Black Rain Ordnance Fallout 15
    Buttstock: Magpul PRS
    Recoil Adapter w/Pad: M/P with Pachmayr Large Field Pad
    PRS Monopod rail cover modified to accept riser w/monopod
    Monopod: Accu-shot 3.75"-4.65"
    Mini Riser: Yankee Hill Machine 1"
    PRS QD Sling Mount: Parker Mountain Machine
    Buffer Tube: Black Rain
    Buffer Spring: JP Silent Capture
    Trigger: Geissele SSA-E
    Trigger Pins: KNS Anti-Rotation Pins
    Grip: Ergo Suregrip Lefty
    Front Pivot/Rear Takedown: Tactical Supply Biohazard Pins
    Bolt Catch/Battery Assist Device: Phase 5 EBRv2
    Safety Selector: Battle Arms BAD-ASS (Long Crank / Short Crank)
    Magazine Catch: Norgon Ambi
    Magazine Release: Seekins Precision
    Lower Pin & Spring Kit: CMMG


    UPPER
    Stripped Upper: Black Rain Ordnance Fallout 15
    Barrel: JP 20" .223 Wylde
    Charging Handle: Rainier Arms Avalanche
    JP Enterprises Thermal Dissipator
    Muzzle Brake: VG6 Epsilon
    Muzzle Brake Attachment: VG6 CAGE Device
    Bolt Carrier: JP Low Mass
    JP Bolt Carrier Pin Package
    Handguard: JP/V-Tac 12" Free Float
    JP Front Sight Rail
    JP 2" Rail
    JP QD Sling Swivel Mount
    Front & Rear iron Sights: Knight's Armament Micro 600 meter
    Gas Block: Syrac/Black Rain Adjustable Low Profile
    Gas Tube: Spike's Tactical
    Forward Assist Assembly: Strike Industries
    Ejection Port Cover: Tactical Gear Junkie
    Bi-pod: Accu-Shot Atlas with QD Lever
    Scope Mount: Bobro QD
    Scope: Leupold Mark IV


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    EDIT: This is addictive. Here's some other builds inspired through all the trial and error. #6 is still in progress but the others are done (more or less :D).


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    LOWER

    Stripped Lower: Anderson Manfucaturing
    Furniture Kit: MDI / Magpul (Reaper Black Stock, Hanguard, VFG, Trigger Guard, PMag)
    Buffer Tube: Omega Manufacturing
    Buffer: Omega Manufacturing
    Buffer Spring: JP Tuned & Polished
    End Plate: Tapco
    Trigger: Rock River Arms National Match 2-Stage
    Grip: Ergo Ambidextrous Reaper Black
    Takedown/Pivot Pin Set: Laser's Edge Studio
    Safety Lever: Battle Arms Development
    Magazine Release Button: Seekins Precision
    Bolt Catch / Battery Assist Device: Phase 5 Tactical EBRv2
    Lower Spring Kit: Strike Industries
    Magazine Catch: Norgon

    UPPER
    Stripped Upper" Aero Precision
    Barrel" Colt .556 x 45, 14.5", w/Front Sight Block and Barrel Nut, Handguard End Cap, YHM Phantom Flash Hider Welded
    Bolt Carrier Group: Crosshill Technologies Black Nitride
    Delta Ring Assembly: Omega Manufacturing
    Gas Tube: Omega Manufacturing
    Handguard: Magpul Reaper Black
    Charging Handle: Rainier Arms
    Ejection Port Cover Assembly: Tactical Gear Junkie
    BUIS-Rear: Magpul Reaper Black


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    LOWER
    Stripped Lower: Anderson Manfucaturing
    Furniture Kit: Magpul MOE
    Buffer Tube: Omega Manufacturing
    Buffer: Omega Manufacturing
    Buffer Spring: JP Tuned & Polished
    Trigger: Rock River Arms National Match 2-Stage
    Trigger Guard: TacFire
    End Plate Sling Adaptor: AR-Stoner
    Grip: Ergo Suregrip
    Takedown/Pivot Pin Set: Squirrel Daddy
    Safety Lever: Stag Arms Ambi
    Magazine Catch Assembly: AR-Stoner
    Bolt Catch: AR-Stoner
    Battery Assist Device: Troy
    Lower Spring Kit: Strike Industries

    UPPER
    Upper: Anderson Manufacturing
    Charging Handle: Omega Manufacturing
    Barrel & Gas Tube: Daniel Defense 5.56x45, 16", 1/7 Twist, Carbine Length Gas, Cold Hammer Forged, Phosphate
    Muzzle Device: Miculek Muzzle Brake
    Bolt Carrier Group: Crosshill Technologies
    Hadguard: Magpul
    Handguard-Cap: LBE Unlimited
    Delta Ring Assembly: Omega Manufacturing
    Vertical Foregrip: Magpul
    Gas Block: Omega Manufacturing
    Forward Assist Assembly: High Standard
    Ejection Port Cover: Sabre Defense
    Ejection Port Pin, Spring, Clip: Mammoth
    BUIS-Rear: Magpul MBUS
    BUIS-Front: Yankee Hill Manufacturing


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    FINISHED

    (***Note that this also takes standard AR magazines. There's a mag-well adapter that holds the belt-fed links. Drop it out and slap a magazine in.)

    LOWER
    Stripped Lower: Spike's Tactical Multi-Cal Red Spider Logo
    Stock: ACE Skeleton Stock Standard
    Buffer Spring: Ares Defense
    Buffer: Spike's Tactical T2
    Trigger: Franklin Armory BFSIII Binary
    Trigger Guard: Spike's Tactical
    Grip: Ergo Ambi Sure Grip
    Front Pivot / Rear Takedown Pins: Battle Arms
    Safety Lever: Franklin Armory
    Magazine Release Button: Seekins Precision
    Bolt Catch: Ares Defense
    Magazine Catch: Norgon Ambi
    QD Stock Attachment: ACE UMPB

    UPPER
    Upper Receiver: Ares Defense MCR-037
    BUIS-Front/Rear Set: Ares Defense
    Barrel Handle: Ares Defense
    Vertical Foregrip: G.P.S. Grip-Pod #02
    Optic Elcan Specter OS 3.5x


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    Here's the company's promo video. Unfortunately this isn't full auto, but the trigger is the new Franklin Armory BFSIII binary. That means that when you flip it to what would be the full auto position It fires a round when you pull it and fires a round when you let go. :eek:

    Yes, that's legal. And in case you missed it, the earlier version of this trigger is in build #1. :cool:



    IN PROGRESS

    LOWER
    Stripped Lower: Spike's "The Jack"
    Buttstock: Magpul UBR
    Trigger: Geissele SSA-E
    Trigger Pins: KNS
    Grip: Ergo Suregrip Left-Handed
    Bolt Catch: Seekins Precision
    Safety Selector: Battle Arms BAD-ASS (Long Crank / Short Crank)
    Mag Catch: DPMS
    Mag Release: Seekins Precision
    Rear Takedown Pin: Colt
    Front Pivot Pin: High Standard
    Sling: Specter Gear Viper Gen 2


    UPPER
    Stripped Upper: Gibbz Arms Left-Handed Side-Charger (w/o FA and Dust Cover)
    Barrel: AR15 Performance 16" 6.8 SPCII 5R Scout Profile, Mid-Length, 1:11.25 Twist
    Muzzle Device: JAL Linear Device
    Bolt Carrier Group: Crosshill Technologies Slab-Side Black Nitride
    Bolt: AR15 Performance 9310 Alloy NiB Coating
    Handguard: 15" Intacto Arms Free Float ***To Be Changed
    Gas Block: SLR Rifleworks Sentry 7


    *The Upper and Handguard will be white Cerakote.

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  2. jericksen5 Brown Belt

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    PSA sometimes has blemishes uppers for dirt cheap. The reviews on them say the blemish is so minor to be unnoticeable, or they literally do not see a blemish . Not sure what your budget is though.
     
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    Upper. Noveske stamped vltor mur, Noveske 14.5 afgan barrel with whatever you want (has to be a total of 16.1") pinned and welded on. One of the the Fortis or Geissele handguards.
     
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    Thanks on the PSA tip but those fellas won't ship to me. I tried to pick up some parts and when I went to checkout it was a no go. I emailed asking what was up and got no reply.

    As for Noveske, I'm definitely interested in their products. What's special about the afghan barrel? Does somebody sell a an upper like you describe that's pre-assembled?
     
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    Rainier arms can probably assemble it for you for pretty cheap. http://www.rainierarms.com/ I think you add parts to cart and add gunsmithing option. I think they have a custom shop option now. I don't remember. You could just call them. I always buy from them. They have always been very helpful on the phone. Also just look through all the products. They have a ton of stuff. Pick the products you like.

    Noveske mod 3 uppers are nice as well. I just like 14.5" barrels. Noveske blanks come from pac nor. John Noveske worked there until he decided to start up Noveske rifle works.

    Noveske makes sub moa barrels that take a beating and chambers with extreme reliability. Tests have shown their stainless steel barrels are still sub moa at 15k rounds. You could go with a standard light lp barrel like what I have as well. They are mil spec M249 double chrome lined and will stay good for like 40-60k+ rounds.

    Here is some real world testing. Included stainless and chf.

    http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?61263-Accuracy-Evaluation-of-Six-Different-Noveske-Barrels

    Some great 10 shot groups. He did some great tests. Also remember when companies say their barrels are sub moa it is usually using 3 shot groups. He is throwing down three 10 shot groups for each one.
     
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    The lowers go together really quick and easy. I put mine together in college while eating a bowl of ramen on the kitchen table. Just be careful not to mar the finish when sliding pins into place.
     
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    Thanks. I saw a video where the guy was using electrical tape to protect the finish when inserting pins. That seemed like a good idea. Instead of Ramen I'll situate the bong on my work space. :icon_lol:

    I'm already hitting snags without even putting the first of it together. I wanted to go with the Seekins bolt catch and a BAD Lever but now I'm reading that they are incompatible. I wonder if the Troy or Phase 5 versions will work instead. Grrrrrrrrrrrr.
     
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    Time for some pics. Here are the main components so far. It's the Spike's lower, then the BRO lower and upper. Near as I could tell all the receivers are made in a select few places and the main difference is going to be whose rollmarks you like best. I love the spider and the biohazard logos. I picked one that needed a trigger guard and one that didn't. I kinda wish one was a Seekins with that curvy look but I'm not sure which one of these I'd replace and three builds is a bit much. :)

    I'm also a sucker for the pictograms (depicting how the non-existent fun switch would work).


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    Since I'm focused on the lowers first and foremost, here's the potential battery assist devices. I realize I didn't buy a Phase 5. I might need to look into that.

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    The Spike's needs a trigger guard so how could I resist using their own (with the spider logo)?

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    Springs & pins, oh boy!


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    Battle Arms safety selectors in every configuration they offer. I'll see what works. I'm picky because I hate the way safeties always rub on my trigger finger. Maddening.

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    The Seekins bolt & mag catches I like. We'll see how these work out when trying to also use BAD Levers.


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    I plan on using the full length ACE Skeleton Stock on the Spike's build. I didn't feel like unwrapping it. Let's call that building suspense.


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    The ambi Raptor charging handles will go on both (and my other AR's most likely)

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    I picked up this sling adapter. Not sure where this fits in yet.


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    Gotta have takedown pins. With the BRO in the house I absolutely needed to get a set with the biohazard symbol on 'em.


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    Grips. What's better than an Ergo Suregrip? The lefty is for the BRO and the ambi is for the Spike's.


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    I'm not really on to the upper yet but here's the barrel and bolt I have. It's a JP 20". It comes with a bolt, which is in the shrinkwrap (didn't feel like unwrapping it). It's heavy. I like that because it's going in the BRO build and my goal there is accuracy with minimal recoil. I'll take all the weight I can get I suppose.


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