Ken shamrock worst declined fighter ever ?

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    in prime a beast and best and in prime would be top 3 today

    His decline was sad

    Anyone else maybe chuck ?
     
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    Only way to not decline is to walk away on top. The early guys didn't make enough money so they had to keep coming back as punching bags.
     
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    He was old and came off like 4 years wrestling when he started to decline so its no shock it happened when it did.
     
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    Not only that. He suffered a lot of injuries during his pro wrestling era.
     
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    His grappling was heavily dependent on his strength and athleticism, much more so than great technique. Old age and injuries hit those 2 things hard which caused a quick and dramatic drop off.
     
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    Exactly this!
     
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    He abandoned his grappling because his knees were shot

    If he had good knees and went catch can on him he'd have beat Tito even past it

    Watching ken box wasn't good apart from fujita fight
     
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    That 4 years ruined him

    Ken was the man in 96 would have been good matches in 9798. Coleman Kerr randy etc
     
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    Exactly. It's not as if he just suddenly declined, lot of factors surround it.
     
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    Ken 2-0!
     
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    Honestly I think Ken just benefited from him era. I don't think he was anything special to be honest but in those times he surely was. Don't get me wrong he would do better in his prime than he does now or after those 4 years away from the sport but I just don't think he was ever great. Good but no one aspect of his game did I find amazing.
     
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    Mark Kerr was way worse in terms of decline.
     
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    By the time he returned, he was physically fucked.

    That said, Frank was the superior fighter anyway. Yes, Ken. I said it.
     
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    Pro wrestling full time is really, really bad for your body
     
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    Idonotbelieveit is the last of a dieing breed and is my hero.
     
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    I dont think shamrock was the most declined fighter, but he had a lot of bad karma for the way he treated people. I honestly think most declined ufc champion of all time was really tim sylvia...but thats just my opinion.
     
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    Loads declined the same just they realised it and took a step away from the sport.
     
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    But nobody really gave a dusty shit about Tim Sylvia, champion or no, to have a huge decline. He was flabby, had no areas he was real real good or unique in, did not really have an electric personality. He was a pretty good heavyweight for a few years, then fell off. To be fair, the UFC's HW division did not have much to offer at all, especially in comparison to Pride, where the talent pool was not only incredibly deep and talented, it boasted many of the GOAT contenders, HW or no, of all time. So Sylvia did not have too much to work with for a while, but after Pride got bought, his decline was in swing.
     
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    It's crazy because had Shamrock not have returned from his career in WWF, he may have been considered as one of the best ever.

    It's just in his blood to fight, even at his age now he's unbelievably passionate about it and would probably take a fight against anybody.
     
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