"Kavanaugh Threatens the Left’s Right to Cheat"

1) i explicitly gave citizens united as one really bad example from the right

2) uh roe v wade?
Heart of ATL motel vs US?
Brown v Board of Education Topeka was a pretty substantial case, just saying
Smith v Allwright

Conservatives conserve, not generally push for change.

1.- Roe v Wade? so you need to go back 45 years to find an example?

2.- The desegregation rulings were not "legislating from the bench" they were quite the opposite, striking down "separate but equal".

The argument was that the left wins at court what they lose in Congress, which is a complete fallacy. The fact that you needed to go back decades to find an example while @Trotsky produced several examples of this century alone is proof enough.
 
2) uh roe v wade?
Heart of ATL motel vs US?
Brown v Board of Education Topeka was a pretty substantial case, just saying
Smith v Allwright

A lot of those policies were enshrined in law thereby countering the logic of the TS, and the most recent decision in that list is Rowe V. Wade (1973, 45 years ago).

Think about the recent victories of the conservatives:
Citizen united
Colorado Baker (admittedly they declared this decision shouldn't set a precedent, merely a decision that aimed to fix poor treatment from CO courts)
The Texas Gerrymandering Case
Public Sector Union Dues Case
 
Can you actually state a real claim with any particularity? I imagine not, or else you would have.

(a) the left's policies are much, much, much more popular than the right's. Even their most unpopular policy and one most likely to be tied up in constitution law, gun control, is more popular than the alternative position of foreclosing all further firearm regulation.

(b) In terms of "cheating," it's fairly obvious that Republicans have undermined democracy in their favor to a degree unlike anything the Democrats have done in 100 years. With voter suppression and voter purges based on what even the conservative Supreme Court admitted were completely baseless claims, they annually erase millions of votes

(c) The conservative Supreme Court will be much, MUCH less protective of free speech than it would be if it was liberal - that is an incontrovertible fact, proven by decades of the Supreme Court.

(d) The conservative Supreme Court just killed the right to maintain a public union. That right was very popular, and the ruling was disfavored by the right and left. In the area of right to work and union busting, the Republicans' platform is deeply, deeply unpopular.....so they had to pass it through the courts.



Honestly, dude, you just don't know what you're talking about. And, unless you are a very very rich man who is also incredibly selfish, a conservative Supreme Court will be very bad for your interests.

if "the left's policies are much, much, much more popular than the right's" as you just claimed, then why is Donald Trump President of the United States?

Just because you say something doesn't make it true. Something liberals and democrats are starting to finally realize.
 
if "the left's policies are much, much, much more popular than the right's" as you just claimed, then why is Donald Trump President of the United States?

Just because you say something doesn't make it true. Something liberals and democrats are starting to finally realize.
I feel like Trump is president even as a guy that is right of the middle because of what South Park said. This last election was like picking between a giant douche and a turd sandwich.

Hey yo, do you want to die by Ebola or E-coli?
 
I feel like Trump is president even as a guy that is right of the middle because of what South Park said. This last election was like picking between a giant douche and a turd sandwich.

Hey yo, do you want to die by Ebola or E-coli?
Thats what liberals say to justify why they lost. It can't possibly be that the majority of Americans agree with Trumps policies.
 
1.- Roe v Wade? so you need to go back 45 years to find an example?

2.- The desegregation rulings were not "legislating from the bench" they were quite the opposite, striking down "separate but equal".

The argument was that the left wins at court what they lose in Congress, which is a complete fallacy. The fact that you needed to go back decades to find an example while @Trotsky produced several examples of this century alone is proof enough.
Hahahaba ok playa
 
if "the left's policies are much, much, much more popular than the right's" as you just claimed, then why is Donald Trump President of the United States?

Just because you say something doesn't make it true. Something liberals and democrats are starting to finally realize.

1.- Scare tactics.

2.- Donald Trump lost the popular vote.
 
Thats what liberals say to justify why they lost. It can't possibly be that the majority of Americans agree with Trumps policies.
Not a liberal but.... well... can't believe I am saying this but @Rod1 has a point with the popular vote.
 
Thats what liberals say to justify why they lost. It can't possibly be that the majority of Americans agree with Trumps policies.

So why cant they repeal Obamacer? why cant they cut Social Security?
 
if "the left's policies are much, much, much more popular than the right's" as you just claimed, then why is Donald Trump President of the United States?

Just because you say something doesn't make it true. Something liberals and democrats are starting to finally realize.

Policies don't run for president, dumb ass. But, if you're going to play that game:

Roe v. Wade approval rating: 69% : Pew Research
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...-ten-americans-oppose-overturning-roe-v-wade/

Gay marriage approval rating: 62% : Pew Research
http://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/changing-attitudes-on-gay-marriage/

Government health-care approval rating: 60%: Pew Research
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...er-health-coverage-grows-driven-by-democrats/

Trump's Approval rating: 39% : Pew Research
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...flecting-divides-over-other-values-and-goals/
 
A lot of those policies were enshrined in law thereby countering the logic of the TS, and the most recent decision in that list is Rowe V. Wade (1973, 45 years ago).

Think about the recent victories of the conservatives:
Citizen united
Colorado Baker (admittedly they declared this decision shouldn't set a precedent, merely a decision that aimed to fix poor treatment from CO courts)
The Texas Gerrymandering Case
Public Sector Union Dues Case
Enshrined AFTER the SC case, hence the point of the case

Not sure if serious
 
Can someone tell me which is worse...

Expecting adults who want to vote to be able to prove who they are with an ID...

OR

Enticing illegals to come into a country, by offering them social welfare benefits at the expense of taxpayers and then actively pursuing their/their childrens vote?
 
if "the left's policies are much, much, much more popular than the right's" as you just claimed, then why is Donald Trump President of the United States?

Firstly, a few million more voters chose Clinton than Trump.
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Secondly, a few million votes were suppressed by state-level GOP voter suppression efforts (700,000 I believe in Wisconsin alone) despite the Party and its surrogates admitting that there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever of ineligible people voting.

Thirdly, and perhaps most importantly, policy is about 30% of what matters to American voters, because we are stupid.

Fourthly, the GOP's base is comprised of a lot of single issue voters who support the GOP despite disagreeing with most of their policies. Issues like abortion and gun control are big here.

Fifthly, the GOP is much better than the Dems at fear mongering and capitalizing on ignorance and reduction. Most right-wing parties, whether they be the GOP or some fundamentalist Islamic party, lean this way.

Just because you say something doesn't make it true. Something liberals and democrats are starting to finally realize.

The irony of this statement is quite incredible.
 
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Can someone tell me which is worse...

Expecting adults who want to vote to be able to prove who they are with an ID...

OR

Enticing illegals to come into a country, by offering them social welfare benefits at the expense of taxpayers and then actively pursuing their/their childrens vote?

The first one: because there is absolutely no evidence of undocumented immigrants voting in any meaningful amount, despite millions spent to uncover such activities, while there is concrete and incontrovertible evidence that those laws and voter purge laws exclude millions of valid voters.

If second one had any basis in reality, it would be worse. Sadly, it's just a silly and pretty nasty myth propagated by imbeciles.
 
The first one: because there is absolutely no evidence of undocumented immigrants voting in any meaningful amount, despite millions spent to uncover such activities, while there is concrete and incontrovertible evidence that those laws and voter purge laws exclude millions of valid voters.

If second one had any basis in reality, it would be worse. Sadly, it's just a silly and pretty nasty myth propagated by imbeciles.

So you're telling me that Democrats don't enact policies to entice/attract illegals to come to the US?

And that once those illegals are here they are not given social welfare services like subsidized childcare, rent assistance, energy assistance, food stamps on the dime of the taxpayer?

And that Democrats don't actively court voters from that derive from that demographic?
 
So you're telling me that Democrats don't enact policies to entice/attract illegals to come to the US?

Yes, that's what I'm telling you. There is absolutely zero evidence of that. It's a ludicrous and hateful conspiracy theory.

And that once those illegals are here they are not given social welfare services like subsidized childcare, rent assistance, energy assistance, food stamps on the dime of the taxpayer?

That's handled at the state and local level, but for the most part undocumented immigrants are excluded from severable benefits like food stamps and rent assistance.

I don't know what you mean by energy assistance.

And that Democrats don't actively court voters from that derive from that demographic?

The Democrats court voters from every demographic, as do the Republicans. You're making a giant leap.
 
http://takimag.com/article/kavanaugh_threatens_the_lefts_right_to_cheat_ann_coulter

"That’s exactly why the left is so hysterical about the Supreme Court. They run to the courts to win their most unpopular policy ideas, gift-wrapped and handed to them as 'constitutional rights.'

What liberals call 'rights' are legislative proposals that they can’t pass through normal democratic processes—at least outside of the states they’ve already flipped with immigration, like California."

"The only rights conservatives ever seek under the Constitution are the ones that are written in black and white, such as the freedom of speech and the right of the people to keep and bear arms. Mostly, we sit trembling, waiting to see what new nonexistent rights the court will impose on us, contravening everything we believe.

So when you hear liberals carrying on about all the 'rights' threatened by Kavanaugh, remember that by 'rights,' they mean 'policy ideas so unpopular that we can’t pass a law creating such rights'"

Lmao fuck off
 
Enshrined AFTER the SC case, hence the point of the case

Not sure if serious

Heart of Atlanta Hotel, Inc Vs. the United States was about title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 is in fact legislation that was passed before the court case.

Brown V. Board of Education was a re-examination of the Equal Protection Clause of the Civil Rights Act of 1866, a law on the books for 88 years in 1954.

Smith V. Allwright regarded the Fourteenth Amendment passed in 1868.

So, no, the Supreme Court ruling was not, in fact, the thing that enshrined these protections into law, they merely upheld them.
 
Yes, that's what I'm telling you. There is absolutely zero evidence of that. It's a ludicrous and hateful conspiracy theory.



That's handled at the state and local level, but for the most part undocumented immigrants are excluded from severable benefits like food stamps and rent assistance.

I don't know what you mean by energy assistance.



The Democrats court voters from every demographic, as do the Republicans. You're making a giant leap.


So, you dispute that enacting and publicizing sanctuary cities/states is attractive to potential/existing illegal immigrants?

How about the community centers that seek out illegals, offer services in Spanish and specifically offer illegals welfare services and help them apply for others. They are funded by taxpayers. I'm not sure where you live, but if it's in a city with a decent sized Latino population, you'll find them. And they are most certainly supported vigorously by the local democrats, hell Democrats host rallies and events at these community centers. As a Latino who has interned at a few of these community centers, they aren't hard to find.

There are often similar services found at universities. The Latino student organization at my university actively sought illegals from south America, helped them get scholarships, legal assistance, childcare, job training. Guess where the money for that came from? Taxpayers, the answer is taxpayers.

Guess how close that student union is with the Democrats student union and local/state Democrats? Very, the answer is very. Our long reigning Democrat mayor would drop in all the time, visit for special events, etc.

Energy assistance is a service provided by some municipalities where people who are in poverty or facing financial hardships can have some or all of their energy bills paid for or forgiven.
 
(a) the left's policies are much, much, much more popular than the right's. Even their most unpopular policy and one most likely to be tied up in constitution law, gun control, is more popular than the alternative position of foreclosing all further firearm regulation.

That all depends on how you measure “popularity.” I look at these surveys which purport to measure public opinion on various issues, and they almost always have glaring problems affecting the integrity of the result (e.g., unrepresentative sample, deceptive wording, etc.). The Left often creatively extrapolates from the answers to certain questions in order to answer different questions which weren’t asked. For example, certain dishonest publications might cite a statistic showing that “90% believe health care costs are high,” then report on it as “90% support socialized medicine,” or “90% oppose Obamacare repeal.”

That’s of course not even reaching the fact that “popularity” has been skewed in recent years by rampant immigration and other factors. For example, illegal immigration suddenly became much more “popular” once we began allowing illegal immigration. Gee, who’da thunk it? It’s taboo to even suggest that perhaps we shouldn’t be asking immigrants what they think of immigration policy, so such measures of popularity are basically useless.

The point is general “popularity” is a problematic way of establishing political legitimacy. Luckily, we have another measure of “popularity” which bypasses many of the problems with opinion polling: elections. If Liberal policies were indeed more popular, you’d expect to see Liberals winning more elections in places with relatively stable demographics. The opposite is happening though. The Democratic Party is losing support in places where it once held steady, like the Rust Belt. I suspect that if the Democratic Party subtracted first or second generation immigrants from its base of support, we’d see that Americans with the deepest ties and history of building this country reject Liberal policies by an increasingly lopsided margin. Deep down, I suspect even Dems know this, so desperation sets in.

(b) In terms of "cheating," it's fairly obvious that Republicans have undermined democracy in their favor to a degree unlike anything the Democrats have done in 100 years. With voter suppression and voter purges based on what even the conservative Supreme Court admitted were completely baseless claims, they annually erase millions of votes

Don’t forget gerrymandering, Comrade. There must always be a way to externalize blame for an electoral loss. If turnout is high, blame the district boundaries. If turnout is low, blame voter suppression. The challenge is making people think of legitimate activities as “cheating,” while making them see cheating activities as legitimate.

Case in point: Voter ID laws. Logically there should be no objection to a law which ensures that only citizens vote. That’s the problem with logical thought - it impedes progress. So what’s the solution? Make people think it’s racist to even consider the possibility that non-citizens are attempting to vote in U.S. elections. As long as people are afraid to think/talk about it, we don’t have to worry about them responding logically to the threat of electoral interference.

(c) The conservative Supreme Court will be much, MUCH less protective of free speech than it would be if it was liberal - that is an incontrovertible fact, proven by decades of the Supreme Court.

What was the split on the gay wedding cake case? Or how about that Asian band that was penalized for being racist against itself (“The Slants” IIRC)? Ya see, liberals and conservatives both have their values-driven censorship agendas. At any given time, one might be more dangerous than the other. Currently, the Left’s campaign against “hate speech” is the biggest threat to First Amendment principles.

(d) The conservative Supreme Court just killed the right to maintain a public union. That right was very popular, and the ruling was disfavored by the right and left. In the area of right to work and union busting, the Republicans' platform is deeply, deeply unpopular.....so they had to pass it through the courts.

Where is the “right to maintain a public union” in the Constitution? Are we talking 1A free association? Because I’m pretty sure we still have the right to form unions and advocate for whatever political causes we see fit. The only difference is we lost the “right” to force non-union members to pay for it. It’s frankly troubling that the ruling was so close.

Honestly, dude, you just don't know what you're talking about. And, unless you are a very very rich man who is also incredibly selfish, a conservative Supreme Court will be very bad for your interests.

What happens if things don’t go “very bad” for most people? Will you admit your error and change your views?
 
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