Karate is becoming the Alpha base for UFC greatness. (Proof in Video Blog and Notes)

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  1. Irresponsible Dad

    Irresponsible Dad Living vicariously though a masterless Samurai Platinum Member

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    It has almost completed a full circle. From creating the worst (most delusional) fighters in the world to quickly becoming the best combat sport to prepare you for UFC.



    I trained TKD for about 5 years. UFC popped up, showed me the light, I switched to MMA and I’ve been bashing karate ever since (20 years now).

    This past weekend I found out Karate is back.

    (Disclaimer: I know everyone will say the best way to train for UFC is training MMA. That is only possible for a small amount of people. For non-pros, kids and newbies the high level MMA training (equivalent to Junior Olympic/Collegiate/National) and widespread availability of (smoker/Kids) MMA fights is limited to small areas in Cali or Vegas. You can find super high level Boxing, Wrestling, karate, BJJ competitions and coaches in most areas. Unless you are lucky, if you want world class specialized training you must pick a base of Karate, Boxing, Wrestling or BJJ)

    Proof of my epiphany in order of occurrence:
    1. My kid lost a PointMMA match to a karate kid
    My kid is a high level youth BBJ, Boxer, and Wrestler he should destroy a karate kid. Check out the video to see my little beast lose to Karate Kid in a PointMMA match.

    2. Continuous Sparring
    At the karate tournament I walked around and watched continuous sparring. Take a look at the video to see a couple quick shots I took of the action. It has completely changed. It looks like kick boxing. Most of the fighters wore kickboxing gear (instead of the crappy foam Karate stuff). They were good fights, they hit each other hard and each karate guy fought multiple matches far exceeding the one fight you get per two months in Boxing/MT. They put in years’ worth of ring time in one day.

    3. Karate Combat
    After the tournament I looked up Karate Combat in Athens, Greece. 8 fights 8 finishes, all black belt karate peeps, in karate stance, wearing MMA gloves, using boxing, wrestling, kickboxing and Karate to win the fight. The event was legit and the karate fighters were legit. It looked much closer to MMA than Muay Tia, K1, any type of Grappling event or other combat sport competition. Some of these dojo monkeys looked ready for UFC.

    4. PointMMA
    I researched local karate gyms and they have all started doing BJJ, and MMA on top of their karate curriculum. They even do PointMMA sparring were you get bracket tournament style modified MMA matches. The PointMMA tournament my kid was in had people fighting up to 5 times in one day. I saw Broken teeth, broken nose, shoulder dislocation, knockouts... it was brutal. The total opposite of what karate was before. It was raw and the closest thing to MMA I’ve ever seen in a local unsanctioned setting.

    5. Wonderboy and Sage Northcutt
    I re-watched Wonderboy and Sage Northcutt’s fights. I used to think their success was due to a switch to MMA training along with the distance management they learned from karate. After going to these Karate Tournaments and seeing how sparring has changed... i think they learned to fight though karate.

    6. Henry Cejudo
    I Listen to our new Flyweight champ Henry Cejudo on UFC Unfiltered talking about fighting in a karate stance, rather than a typical boxing stance . He says he’s switched to a karate style??? A boxer wrestler switched to a karate stance to win the UFC belt.

    Karate is back and has evolved into a legitimate way to become a successful UFC fighter.

    My current rank order of useful combat sports (with consistent completion participation) to become a UFC Fighter:
    1.Wrestling
    2.Karate
    3.Boxing
    4.Muay Thai
    5.BJJ (has replaced karate as the new Mc dojo useless martial art)

    What is your order of combat style usefulness?

    I predict we will soon complete the circle:
    Year 2010: BBJ own Karate
    Year 2020: Karate owns BBJ
     
  2. Maori

    Maori Purple Belt

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    Styles make fights

    1.boxing
    2.wrestling
     
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    Kaffebaggel Green Belt

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    But will people die karate-men?

    Wing-chun bro.
     
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    How was GSP not mentioned in your post
     
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    Should have just mentioned Horiguchi.

    Best Karateka in MMA right now.
     
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    Unless you have a uniquely large reach or quickness advantage, the karate guy will always get layed and gayed by bums like Colby and Usman.
     
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    Killashaw It's all mental warfare Yellow Card

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    What a fucking shit post you should be embarrassed dude.
    That shit aint karate no more if they're wrestling and boxing and shit like that, that's MMA.
    Pure karate loses to all other legit martial arts 99/100 times.
     
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    "I researched local karate gyms and they have all started doing BJJ, and MMA on top of their karate curriculum. They even do PointMMA sparring were you get bracket tournament style modified MMA matches" . Soooo not really Karate .
     
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    You put alot of work into this post..but no1 is fighting at the top levels of MMA with just there base..it isnt possible

    Take for example GSP his base was karate..but in order to a successful as he was in MMA he didnt use just his karate..

    Karate is affective when fighting on there terms, primarily a stand up fight with not much chance of clinching or grappling but outside of that it cant hold up to others..also its a very general statement to just say karate there are tons of styles and even more practioners and few very truthful killers or elites that would truely represent karate to the fullest ..the truth most people dont study the traditonal martial arts the way there suppose or long enough to truely make it effective in all realms.. There mostly lost arts now..

    Thats not to say karate hasnt had a resurgence it has but its a new form a MMA specific karate form..a new style if you will
     
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    Karate is strong
     
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    won´t EVER click on your shit

    go get a real job
     
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    Cejudo switched to a karate style due to djs movement it was specific for the champ of his division
     
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    Machida Era never dies!
     
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