We're not comparing the best of the world in a specific art with the best of that art within MMA. We're saying the examples given to represent that specific art are not even people from that art in the first place. There's literally been posts in this thread about Tyrone Woodley and Eddie Alvarez having a Muay Thai style, come on...
Lyoto Machida might not be the best Shotokan Karateka in the world but at least he definitely has that background and competed in it seriously for many years. He has that style and you can clearly recognise it when he fights. Whenever you ask people from Shotokan Karate to name some great Shotokan Karateka in MMA you can be sure that Lyoto Machida will be in their list as he's one of the most accomplished Shotokan Karateka in MMA if not the most accomplished.
Shogun on the other hand is not that for MT. The points
@Thycidides was making were: 1. Shogun isn't the best representation of MT in MMA and there are better examples, 2. Authentic MT is quite rare to see applied in MMA, 3. Counter fighting, distancing, movement and footwork are present in MT (unlike what a previous poster was saying) and he gave an example to prove his point with Saenchai who's regarded as one of the GOATs of MT. You can clearly see in his highlight videos and actual fights how he uses distancing, movement and footwork. If the one considered one the greatest in MT isn't a good representation of the style, then I wonder who is.
All his points were valid IMO.