Judo vs BJJ for MMA

sonic44

White Belt
@White
Joined
Nov 23, 2013
Messages
31
Reaction score
0
Alright guys, let's hear it. Which one is better overall for MMA? I know the popular answer is BJJ. But what advantages would a Judo practioner have? And should we ignore Judo as a serious contender, when BJJ came from Judo, and with Ronda Rousey proving it can be adapted to MMA and used in the octagon?
 
Ronda Rousey didn't prove jack. It was already widely known that Judo could be adapted and used in MMA.
 
I think a 25 year old who spend a decade competing at the highest level in Judo would probably be a better prospect than one who did so in BJJ, especially if they focused on gi BJJ and were guard pullers.
 
giphy.gif
 
Alright guys, let's hear it. Which one is better overall for MMA? I know the popular answer is BJJ. But what advantages would a Judo practioner have? And should we ignore Judo as a serious contender, when BJJ came from Judo, and with Ronda Rousey proving it can be adapted to MMA and used in the octagon?

Judo is not that easy to adapt to MMA, the advantage of training judo will be athletic performance, footwork and good balance, you still have to learn a shitload of things before going into MMA.

MMA is its own sport, people used to say that Muay Thai was the god of striking for MMA and that boxing was neutered and too restrictive, now boxing is pretty good... assuming you of course learn everything else properly.

I guess its something similar with judo.

Judo vs sport BJJ? the advantage will be that the judoka doesnt juices.\

Personally, if i were to train MMA, i would stop training judo altogether.
 
what turned me off about Judo when I went to check out a place, was that some new rule said you couldn't grab the legs?? I think the throws rock, and combine with the groundwork they have it seemed like a solid option that was a little different from what everyone else was doing, but you can't grab the legs? Seriously? Apparently there are a lot of other new rules that really restrict the art because Japan wants it to look less like wrestling in the Olympics.

That's what I have a problem with--watering down an art so it will look cooler.
 
"I think MMA is better for MMA"

Ha, nicely put. Simple, and makes a lot of sense.
 
I say this as a judo fanboy and someone who believes that judo can work well for MMA:

BJJ is essential in modern MMA.

Judo is not.
 
Both "arts" suck ass equally. Much better to train UFC.
 
well, its a no brainer...

one art is widely trained no gi
one art has absolutely no rules on leg grabs
one art specializes in submissions and the other in pins and ippons..

its really a no brainer.
 
Alright guys, let's hear it. Which one is better overall for MMA? I know the popular answer is BJJ. But what advantages would a Judo practioner have? And should we ignore Judo as a serious contender, when BJJ came from Judo, and with Ronda Rousey proving it can be adapted to MMA and used in the octagon?

You're pretending that you've never seen any of the thousands of conversations about this in just about every MMA forum in existence?

BJJ obviously, though ultimately the best way to train for MMA is to train MMA.

In terms of Rousey, she's done far less to adapt it for MMA than Fedor or Yoshida or even Karo did. Even her signature juji-gatame move has been used by judoka in MMA for two decades (and of course, like every submission, that move doesn't belong to judo any more than the kimura belongs to BJJ - the submissions all have been around for a very long time, and the moves are typically in many styles).
 
One art is widely trained for professional people that are already at high level MMA competition and cannot spend their time learning something that will not work well and other isn't.

In today's MMA rules you are better off with pure Judo than pure BJJ if you want to enter in it, however, even in the average levels of competition you cannot walk around without being good at everything.
If you plan into going to MMA, what is better to train: BJJ, which will teach you ground game and submissions and having to learn standing wrestling and striking later or Judo, which will teach you a part of the standing wrestling game (clinch takedowns) and a part of the ground game and having to learn striking, no-gi wrestling game and the rest of the ground game you didn't learned until then?

Plus if you are training at a decent BJJ place you will have good no-gi instruction and plenty of opportunities to get your no-gi game to a high level. You only become a specialist in the gi guard pulling game if you want to or if you are already at a high level of competition and want to dedicate yourself to only that for efficiency and success. This is not true in Judo, where you might find great places to train that do not teach you enough ground game and places where you actually can learn something in no-gi are very rare. When I trained Judo I was on a gym that is the top of my state competition and our newaza training was not so present. There are places where you can train Judo and learn no-gi and heel hooks? Of course. Are they the norm? I only visited 3 Judo gyms until now but in my limited experience and in what the internet tells me, no.
 
Short answer: BJJ is better than Judo for MMA. However, Judo is better in a street fight.

Long answer: First of all, I practice BJJ exclusively, so even though I'm just a white belt, I'm not biased towards Judo.

BJJ probably has a better ground game than Judo and a real fight usually ends up on the ground. Since going to the ground on an octagon's canvas doesn't usually end the fight, this is where BJJ shines. BJJ usually includes a very big part of fighting without a gi, while Judo completely neglects this aspect. Present day MMA is mostly fought without a gi, which gives BJJ a huge advantage. Fighting without a gi greatly reduces the capacity to grip your opponent. However, all of this changes in a street fight. The gi simulates regular clothes and people in the street usually wear clothes, so you get a formidable grip and slamming an opponent head-first on concrete will usually send him into a coma, so it will take less than 3 seconds to take an opponent out of the fight, 100% of the time. Not only is this extremely effective against one opponent, but also much more so than BJJ against several opponents, for obvious reasons. Whereas with BJJ you take much longer to dominate an opponent and you have to take him to the ground first, and takedowns are much weaker than with Judo, so it's high risk and much lower percentage. If you only practice BJJ, many times you will have to pull guard, which is very dangerous as the opponent can escape and ground and pound you if he's much stronger than you. It also leaves you open to his friends stomping and soccer-kicking your head into another part of the universe. Even when you get top-control you're extremely vulnerable to this. With Judo this will never happen. Also, Judo has a very strong ground game too, at least with clothes or gi. From all the videos I've seen of Judo vs BJJ with BJJ rules and gi, Judo wins far more often than not. Therefore, BJJ is better than Judo for MMA, and Judo is better than BJJ for street fights and self defense. But again, this is just a BJJ white belt's humble opinion.
 
Last edited:
Stupid question eon!

Judo of course, unless u want to spend your for play on your knees like a cheap $20 wh*×&....Whoh, that's not nice!

Freestyle Judo clubs are moving past that silly Olympic ruleset training.
 
well, its a no brainer...

one art is widely trained no gi
one art has absolutely no rules on leg grabs
one art specializes in submissions and the other in pins and ippons..

its really a no brainer.

And you forget one art has little emphasis on takedowns.
 
Back
Top