27 minutes in. This is seriously one of the best podcasts Rogan has done. The first ten minutes is about Ben getting blindsided/bamboozled by the UFC during the end of his contract with Bellator. Seriously shady shit by the UFC, might even be illegal. Ben so far seems pretty well-spoken and doesn't seem to have an inflated ego or anything. 10:00-17:00 about corruption of orgs like International Olympic Committee and NCAA by making billions from young athletes, when the athletes get nothing. 17:00- back to UFC's bullshit and how Dana likes Yes men. 22:00 - Athlete's mental state. Askren is obsessed about Sports Psychology and even briefly pursued a higher degree while preparing for the 2008 Olympics.