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Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by WaylonMercy5150, Feb 7, 2018.
Is this supposed to be an insult? Hackerman is a boss.
Pride, as much as I loved it, were not exactly always the best matchmakers
Seriously though I was just busting his balls. Pride was awesome, but sometimes nostalgia can cloud peoples judgement. Even with some of the bullshit match ups we've seen with WME there have only been a small handful of them. The UFC even with WME is light years a head of how Pride was when it comes to match making.
Like that Crocop punk. Or that Dan Henderson push over.
Whats to miss bro ?
The flashy entrances ?
The respect for the fighters ?
Igor V, Fedor, Cro Cop, Rua Bros, Rampage, Gracies, Silvas, Sergei K, HAmmerHouse, Sak, BTT, Mixed Matches copromoted with K1 ?
Bas as a commentator ?
What is there to miss ?
Guess i miss that shit too..
Man, there has to be a Gracie team being put together lol....Gracie Team smash!
I can't wait for this. A sambo team, a bjj team, a Judo team, a cacc team. And it sounds like the extra match could be bonkers, especially if they're not told ahead of time which opponent the other team is sending out. Would they just automatically field the heavyweights?
Nah when people complain about UFC's matchmaking it's because they're giving title shots to anyone but the number one contender. In pride their top guys fought all the time.
Wait what are the rules?
Is this going to be like that crazy russian team mma thing where you have 2 teams of guys fighting at the same time until one guy gets a finish and is free to go around cheapshotting the opposition team until they are all gang bashing one guy?
Are they saying it's gonna be like that except with grappling only?
Pride led the way for mma in its time, as it was the number one company. Japan has contributed a lot to the world of combat sports. You can't write mma history without Japan. They were pioneers who gave the sport a home back when the US struggled to accept it. Respect.
That was fucking awesome
Fedor fought a bunch of bullshit fights. Most of them were non title, but he was still fighting pro wrestlers when he was the #1 HW in the world, and one of the 3 times he actually defended his belt was to Mark Hunt who was coming off of a loss. 9 out of 10 times the title fights in the UFC make sense.
It was actually pro wrestling that paved the way for MMA in Japan.
It all goes back to Karl Gotch and Billy Robinson, who trained together in old school catch wrestling, both went their different ways in the pro wrestling world and ultimately both of them ended up in Japan training pro wrestlers. Gotch trained Yoshiaki Fujiwara, who trained Suzuki and Funaki, who recruited and trained Ken Shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Rutten, going on to found Pancrase. Robinson would train most of the UWFI wrestlers that would go on to become Pride.
Then I don't think a lot of modern fans really understand the influence that Rings had on Pride. Pride basically swallowed up Rings, took their best fighters(Fedor, Overeem, etc), stole their ideas, then put them out of business in 2002, right around the time that Pride really started to kick ass.
The guy who founded Rings, Akira Maeda is connected to Takada, Fujiwara, and Tiger Mask. Those four guys all came out of the same dojo and basically laid the groundwork for what MMA would become. Their bidding war over Rickson Gracie would basically shape the history of MMA.
If you take away pro wrestling's direct influence on MMA history, you take away Ken Shamrock, Dan Severn, Suzuki, Funaki, Frank Shamrock, Bas Rutten, Sakuraba, Takada, Fedor, Pancrase, Pride, Rings, Shooto never happens. I think it's safe to say that maybe MMA never happens, especially when you consider the influence that pro wrestling had on Mitsuyo Maeda, who taught the Gracies how to grapple.
Maeda was living in a YMCA in Alabama at one point during his travels, learning tricks of the trade from the pro wrestlers he befriended in the 1900's. He basically taught the Gracie's Judo with some old school pro wrestling tricks and submissions worked into it. I mean, if you take all of that away, what does that leave MMA? It would have basically been just a toughman contest, it would have died an early death, if it even would have happened at all.
It is a survival team grappling match (last man standing)
It is not a simultaneously 5 vs 5 fight.
Lets say Team A and B choose their guy 1st and if that Team A guy wins, he goes on to grapple an another grappler from Team B and so on,
Until Team A grappler finally loss/eliminated and the next Team A grappler will come and grapple that Team B guy.
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You guys misunderstood the concept and already bashing Saku's grappling org.
It's a shame all these new age fans know is UFC.
I thought you meant 5-on-5 at first, I just pictured a massive orgy of manflesh.
Why did you mention me in your post? I'm a big fan of Sakuraba and support him.
Fair enough... but I did get that it wasn't a royal rumble. I was just a little put off by the teams n stuff, like high school American wrestling or something. I'd be more intrigued if they just put em all in a big bracket system & lets see who comes out on top in the end. I dunno, maybe it works. He's just trying to change it up a bit with the teams.... I get it.
Danaher Death Squad lets go.
What do you think his waist size was?
(In inches, not feet)
I’ll go with 60 inches.