Jon vs OSP and Jon vs DC 2

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  1. heohanwuoc

    heohanwuoc Orange Belt

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    Jon vs OSP: (Highlights)

    Jon's Significant Strikes (form UFC website)
    R1: 13
    R2: 18
    R3: 30
    R4: 26
    R5: 18
    Jon vs DC 2: (Highlights)

    Jon's Significant Strikes (form UFC website)
    R1: 34
    R2: 30
    R3: 31
    You can cleary see Jon is much faster,more aggressive when he fought DC than when he fought OSP although DC is much more dangerous than OSP
    Jon vs OSP is also the only fight Jon didn't get popped for PEDs when he fought under USADA era.
    Many people trying to defend Jon said Jon dominated OSP, yes he did but not act like OSP is a great fighter or a top 5 LHW or Jon is a bad fighter, Volkan defeated OSP in short noticed and it was also his first fight in UFC too, and look what DC did to Volkan.
    And i never said Jon is not a good fighter, he is definitely one but a good fighter + steroid is a different thing. If Gus/Rumble or even Volkan took as much PEDs as Jon, i believe they would KO DC too(Not so sure about Volkan but he has a puncher chance), Jon isn't the only guy that landed hart shot on DC
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    Disagree completely. Jones weapons are nullified against someone of same stature and are strengthened by those he looks down on.
     
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    Failing twice for a rematch against a guy he already beat Is all the evidence you need to understand Juicy Jon was geared up in their first fight. Bones ain’t shit without steroids and he knows it. Probably a champion but nothing spectacular.
     
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    It's simple: every time Jon has been tested for PED's, and the opponent was not DC, he passed. Everytime Jones was scheduled to fight DC, or did fight DC, he failed his test (let's not forget the lil girl t levels @ 182 either). What does that tell us? Jones is shook to death of fighting old, short and fat DC without the juice and knows he would get his as whupped on a level playing field. DC is Ken Griffey JR and Jones is Barry Bonds.
     
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    OSP's level is far form Gus/Rumble/ Glover/DC/Volkan, size means nothing if the skill difference is too big, and not act like Jon hasn't fight fighters that is bigger than OSP and dominated them
     
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    Jones stood tall above Texeira and DC. Relatively easy wins. Fought Gus and OSP with same height, not easy wins. See a trend ?
     
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    DC's strikes vs Silva (the fight the rematch was supposed to happen at)

    Round 1 - 13
    Round 2 - 9
    Round 3 - 11

    DC's strikes vs Jones II (the actual rematch)

    Round 1 - 31
    Round 2 - 22
    Round 3 - 5

    Clearly DC was on PEDs against Jon
     
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    LMAO
     
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    Draper Bronze Bomber

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    Jones won every round against OSP and was coming off a layoff. He didn't have to get more aggressive.
     
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    Styles make fights

    Jones is 6'4" 84" reach and has the best wrestling in the division. He's a 5'9" mans, especially DCs, kryptonite.

    OSP is a big guy and Jon doesn't do as spectacular against big guys. I'm betting the house on Brock Lesnar.
     
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    Cormier was pushing a fast pace which forced jones to fire off a high volume of kicks and punches to keep DC from getting inside.

    OSP is less skilled and respected jon more so he stayed on the outside since they are similar size. Jones didn’t have to be as active vs. OSP because jon was controlling the pace.

    It’s not that hard to figure that out. Also yeah jones was probably juiced for both fights. But that’s not the reason for the high output of strikes vs. DC
     
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    Lol @ using those stats.

    Cormier was a pretty close fight (untill Jones knocked him out, which btw obviously influences the stats in the third round, cuz Jones was finishing him with "significant strikes"), so Jones had to do more/land more strikes to win, cuz DC posed a decent amount of trouble.

    In the Saint Preux fight, Jones didn't have to do much.
     
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    OSP was being about as defensive as you could be in that fight. DC was coming at Jones non stop, he never stopped moving forward.
     
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    This if anything Jones was juiced for both fights glad I'm not the only one who realized it was just the difference in pace that each opponent brought to the fight against Jones.
     
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    I agree

    OSP fight equals the only clean Jones fight in his entire ufc career

    DC fights equals using gear 100 percent..weigh in pictures and performance between the two contests prove everything

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    Now dc

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    Enough said
     

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    I think he was on it during the OSP fight too. Difference was ring rust. He seemed just as fresh at the end of 5 as he did in the beginning.
     
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    DC and OSP fight completely differently
    Jon is forced to throw more against DC's pressure

    The Jones that fought OSP is superior to the previous versions of Jones at that point including the one that beat DC the first time, his striking technique looked much sharper.

    You are all swayed by the bias commentary FROM DC during that fight, DC would have got KO'd or UD'd if he fought Jones that night.
     
  20. markg171

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    Jon is at his biggest during the OSP fight due to his powerlifting, which everybody after the fight said was to his detriment as it slowed him down.

    Not sure what point you thinnk you’re making here.
     

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