Jon Jones and Frank Mir both tested positive for turinabol

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  1. GSP1978

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    Both Jon Jones and Frank Mir train at Jackson Wink. Coincidence? Certainly that is possible.

    But also consider that turinabol is a steroid that hasn't been in vogue in a while. Yet two MMA fighters at Jackson Wink both fail for the same PED within an 18 month period.

    Here is my speculation: the team had found a way to mask turinabol and were mostly successful in passing the PED tests. Until their luck ran out.



    https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/4/...acle-steroids-peds-turinabol-dhcmt-suspension

    https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/8/...roid-turinabol-ped-ufc-214-daniel-cormier-mma
     
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    Arm Barbarian Steel Belt Platinum Member

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    Yeah but frank had tainted Kangaroo meat, while bone-less had tainted dick pills.

    lmao
     
  3. NotSoSure

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    It's also the drug that busted a bunch of Russian olympic athletes for the '16 games.
     
  4. DOMMA

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    Nice find TS - I agree with your assertion.
     
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    Frank Mir gets a pass because consistency.
     
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    Them kangaroos were roiding like crazy

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  9. Senzo Tanaka

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    There have been something like 100+ turinabol busts in pro sports in the last 10 years.

    Guys started using it to mask other PEDs and since it was old, they didn't think it would be tested.

    I think it was simply the case of Jon hanging around his new power lifting buddies and they recommend it to him.
     
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    I am thinking it is his NFL brothers who are advising him. His brother popped for the same thing as jones. not turinabol. but the first one. I picture it going something like this, "Everybody uses this shit in the NFL Jon, trust me." And his brother is a moron too. lol. His brother is a pro sports veteran in a sport full of steroids and Jon probably believes him.
     
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    Nice work bro.
     
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    Right before I saw this thread I had just posted a reply in a thread I made
    about the Jacksonwink connection.....good find bro

    Now I don't know what the average is for a big gym..... but Jacksonwink fighters do seem to get suspiciously busted more or have more known cheaters train at their facility

    Ali bagautinov (EPO)

    Overeem (steroids)

    Cerrone (diuretics)

    Jones (steroids)

    Mir (steroids)

    Marquardt (steroids)

    Long standing suspects:

    Shad (dat gyno)

    Holm (well hung woman)

    Tara la rosa (miesha is the one that called her out on this)

    http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/w...es-flintstone-vitamins-cycle-related.3620335/

    My theory on why they are getting popped for turinabol and what it really means
     
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    I could be wrong, but I don't think Frank Mir trained at Jackson/Wink for his last fight. I don't think he has trained there in years.
     
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    Mir popped before Jackson's as well. Or was on TRT. It is a big camp. They are gonna have more busts. You think Overeem started juicing at Jacksons? lol. And adding Rashad to that list is just stupid. No evidence. Same with Holm. Look where Overeem, Rashad and Vitor trained.

    and if Cerrone is a cheater then so are guys like BJ Penn and Nick Diaz. Look at the Gracie camp. how many guys have been popped from there? Diaz. though weed. many times. but shields and gilbert. sonnen also trained with the scrap pack. see how easy it is to find patterns?
     
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    Turnibol was such a bad choice for Jones. It's really amazing to think a smart team with everything to lose would chose a roid after testing clean with another test coming in a short period, knowing it doesn't clear system fast at all.
     
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    Frank got a bad batch of what he was actually taking, and it contained T. Jones likely had the same problem. If you're not getting it direct from supplier, you can sometimes run across tainted batches of your preferred cheating compound.
     
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    Doesn't Mir have connections to Russia?

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  18. GSP1978

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    I wouldn't call it an assertion. Pure speculation. Both Mir and Jones could be innocent. But I suspect otherwise. I think the coincidence suggests more inquiry is warranted.
     
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    Lots of taint eating over at Jackson-Wink these days.
     
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    That Malki is inventive.. but kinda embarrassing to be going with dick pills for a young, big and strong fighter like Jones, but hey public perception and all that, turn it into a joke we ha ha and hue hue if he gets the W it's all good until disaster.
     
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