John Oliver: No Big Issue of ANTIFA Assaulting 'White Nationlist' Protestors

[lfd0311]

I'm pretty ambivalent about it honestly. I won't do it, because I'm nonviolent where possible which is pretty much 100% of the time. But philosophically... I won't shed a tear.
National Socialism had its time, its open forums for debate, its chance. It has decisively been shown the door of decent society.
But I think we understand each other.

While I agree with you, the point is that the Left's current mode of operation is to brand EVERYONE who doesn't hold Progressive beliefs a "Nazi" so that they can justify physical violence against them.

 

[Rational Poster]

Actual swastika flag waving nazis? I could see myself agreeing with that. Want's immigration laws enforced nazi? I do not

Immigration laws are enforced, it's just immigration courts have backlogs for years.

 

[lfd0311]

Speaking of assumptions, this.

Punching Nazis isn't okay. There are laws about assault.

But there's no moral equivalency between Nazis and those who protest them. I've said I don't support violence against them for speaking their idiotic beliefs, but I won't have sympathy for them when they get beaten. And I don't want to see them marching in the streets. We decided that shit in 1945.

There are, though. What were the Nazi's main political goals and how did they acheive them? Now compare and contrast that with what the Left is currently doing and there is absolutely no difference.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Of course. Holy Wars is the greatest solo of all time.

... No more mistakes

 

[lfd0311]

Actual swastika flag waving nazis? I could see myself agreeing with that. Want's immigration laws enforced nazi? I do not

Posts like this need to be paid attention to a little more like those on the left who seem to not be understanding.

 

[lfd0311]

Immigration laws are enforced, it's just immigration courts have backlogs for years.

ROFL

 

[Rational Poster]

ROFL

If Trump actually wanted to deport all the illegals we'd need to increase the number of immigration courts from 57 to over 1,000, and hire thousands more staff and judges.

It's a fantasy.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

There are, though. What were the Nazi's main political goals and how did they acheive them? Now compare and contrast that with what the Left is currently doing and there is absolutely no difference.

Why, of course. Now that you compare them, I see no difference between the left in the current United States and the National Socialist party of 30's and early 40's Germany.

What a great point.

 

[7437]

for the record, i would also support punching members of ISIS. same concept. some ideologies are unacceptable. if some ISIS supporters had a big march in the USA, totally fine to have violence there. For the exact same reasons.

 

[lfd0311]

If Trump actually wanted to deport all the illegals we'd need to increase the number of immigration courts from 57 to over 1,000, and hire thousands more staff and judges.

It's a fantasy.

Of course it is. What did Joe Arapiao go to jail for again?

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Of course it is. What did Joe Arapiao go to jail for again?

Violating the rights of American citizens after being ordered to stop by a court.

 

[lfd0311]

Why, of course. Now that you compare them, I see no difference between the left in the current United States and the National Socialist party of 30's and early 40's Germany.

What a great point.

What is ANTIFA currently doing? Look at how the Nazi's rose to power in the late 20s and early 30s. It is very similar to what ANTIFA is attempting to do now, oddly enough under the guise of opposition to a percieved Nazi threat of some kind. The worst part of it is that Leftist politicians and media members like John Oliver condone it. That's the problem.

 

[lfd0311]

Violating the rights of American citizens after being ordered to stop by a court.

Absolutely. What was the core issue. You knew what I was asking.

 

[lfd0311]

for the record, i would also support punching members of ISIS. same concept. some ideologies are unacceptable. if some ISIS supporters had a big march in the USA, totally fine to have violence there. For the exact same reasons.

I'd just like to say, as someone who spent 14 months as a Marine Infantryman in Iraq, you don't beat terrible ideologies with superior violence. You beat them with superior ideas.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

What is ANTIFA currently doing? Look at how the Nazi's rose to power in the late 20s and early 30s. It is very similar to what ANTIFA is attempting to do now, oddly enough under the guise of opposition to a percieved Nazi threat of some kind. The worst part of it is that Leftist politicians and media members like John Oliver condone it. That's the problem.

That's the problem. That's the problem.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Absolutely. What was the core issue. You knew what I was asking.

That was the core issue. If you were brown behind the wheel in his town, you could spend a weekend in jail unless you happened to be carrying your passport and birth certificate.

 

[Jack Reacheround]

Excusing the assault makes it a first amendment issue.

No, not at all. That’s like saying, if I go into a bar and start calling people cunts, then one of them KOs me, they just impinged on my first amendment rights. What they did was illegal. But it was not a first amendment issue.

They just punched me out because I’m an asshole. Really, when did people start believing that the first amendment guaranteed you the right to not have any opposition to your opinions, or prevented your boss from firing you for what you say, or guaranteed your right to not get beat up for your opinions?

You know when it was? When Fox News started saying it was, not because they believe so much in free speech, but because they sympathize with the message of the people getting attacked.

 

[Jack Reacheround]

You can argue assaulting a Nazi is wrong, but not that it’s a free speech issue. If the government starts breaking up their assemblies, then we have a real first amendment issue. Until then, you can all suck a dick.

 

[irish_thug]

or guaranteed your right to not get beat up for your opinions?

The law of the land is supposed to prevent that. Laws passed by the governemnt. Laws enforced by the police who stood around and did nothing, time after time.

 

[tonni]

While I agree with you, the point is that the Left's current mode of operation is to brand EVERYONE who doesn't hold Progressive beliefs a "Nazi" so that they can justify physical violence against them.

except that doesn't happen