Joe Rogan on the GOAT - It's Anderson or Fedor

[JackSchtotll]

Your opinion does not equal facts. Here are the FACTS:

Highest paid NFL player: Peyton Manning, small pay lead over 2nd/3rd places, in GOAT conversation.
Highest paid golfer: Tiger Woods, huge lead over second place, undiputed GOAT
Highest paid basketball player (adjusted for inflation): MJ, GOAT
Highest paid boxer: Mayweather Jr., disputed GOAT
Highest paid tennis player: pretty much a tie between Federer and Djokovic, both in GOAT talk
Highest paid MMA fighter BY FAR: Conor McGregor

The correlation is literally perfect in ALL major sports. Highest paid athlete in any pro sport is at the very least in GOAT conversation. Your claim that it's "not about money" is just salty hater speech backed with zero evidence. For Conor to not be in MMA GOAT conversation would require him to be the SOLE exception to a well established rule, which is baseless nonsense.



There's zero proof that Ronda made more money in MMA than even GSP or Silva, let alone Conor, you are literally talking out of your ass.

Again, like I said, instead of spewing your baseless opinions, how about you provide some ACTUAL EVIDENCE and name me another pro athlete who's far and away the highest paid in his or her sport, but not at the very least in GOAT talk? I'm still waiting:

Yes, there are facts.

But the facts you listed do not correlate to who the best MMA fighter is. You seem fixated on highest paid, which makes no sense for a sport that is 30 years old. Also doesn't apply, say, to soccer or any olympic sport.

I can't find this "Conor" you like so much. Is he a Gracie?

 

[LouisBolanos]

Ronda made more money in her career than Fedor.

Do you have proof for that or are you talking straight out of your ass?

If Mayweather fought CM Punk this year and made double what Conor ever made in the UFC does that make him your new MMA GOAT?

Again, do you have evidence of this happening or are you talking out of your ass?

Name me another pro athlete (who's not in your imagination), with career pay that is by far the highest in his or her sport (again, actual verifiable pay, not imaginary scenarios), who's not considered one of the GOATs. I'll wait.

I should know better than to feed the troll...

>100 posts, 200 likes throwaway

Troll indeed.

 

[Thunderchild]

Your opinion does not equal facts. Here are the FACTS:

Highest paid NFL player: Peyton Manning, small pay lead over 2nd/3rd places, in GOAT conversation.
Highest paid golfer: Tiger Woods, huge lead over second place, undiputed GOAT
Highest paid basketball player (adjusted for inflation): MJ, GOAT
Highest paid boxer: Mayweather Jr., disputed GOAT
Highest paid tennis player: pretty much a tie between Federer and Djokovic, both in GOAT talk
Highest paid MMA fighter BY FAR: Conor McGregor

The correlation is literally perfect in ALL major sports. Highest paid athlete in any pro sport is at the very least in GOAT conversation. Your claim that it's "not about money" is just salty hater speech backed with zero evidence. For Conor to not be in MMA GOAT conversation would require him to be the SOLE exception to a well established rule, which is baseless nonsense.



There's zero proof that Ronda made more money in MMA than even GSP or Silva, let alone Conor, you are literally talking out of your ass.

Again, like I said, instead of spewing your baseless opinions, how about you provide some ACTUAL EVIDENCE and name me another pro athlete who's far and away the highest paid in his or her sport, but not at the very least in GOAT talk? I'm still waiting:

Quality trolling here.

 

[JackSchtotll]

As explained to you it is a logical fallacy to argue a point of view based on person X's authority on subject Y.

"Once in a lifetime athlete"
"Could beat half the men's BW division"
"Ronda would beat floyd"


I guess you believe all these things, and every other dumb thing that has come out of Rogan's mouth on the topic of MMA.

Ah, when children learn "logical fallacy". It's priceless.

Is it a logical fallacy to say "the Specialist diagnosed this as Parkinson's Disease" ?

 

[Mortigan]

DMMJ goat all day long.

 

[MMAfanJabroniJew]

Those that whine about GSP not being mentioned never listen to a single critique about him. Get over it and stop crying, not everyone thinks that laying on guys for 30 rounds straight makes you the best ever.

The man has defeated some of the greatest WW in history .... in dominating fashion no less , the only times i can remember GSP struggling are his loses ( obviosuly ) and his fights against Hendricks and his first one against Penn ( which i thought Penn won ) ....

How many GOATs where as dominate as GSP ? only Fedor comes to mind ( i would include Anderson and Jones .... but of course its been established that they are cheaters ).

 

[LouisBolanos]

Yes, there are facts.

But the facts you listed do not correlate to who the best MMA fighter is. You seem fixated on highest paid, which makes no sense for a sport that is 30 years old. Also doesn't apply, say, to soccer or any olympic sport.

I can't find this "Conor" you like so much. Is he a Gracie?

If the career highest paid pro athlete in every single other major sport is either GOAT or among GOAT conversation, and Conor's career pay is by far the highest in MMA, then Conor is either GOAT or among GOAT conversation in MMA, or he's the sole exception to the rule in all of pro sports with no precedence.

Which one is far more likely?

 

[JackSchtotll]

If the career highest paid pro athlete in every single other major sport is among GOAT conversation, and Conor's career pay is by far the highest in MMA, then he's either among GOAT conversation in MMA, or he's the sole exception to the rule in all of pro sports, with no precedence.

Which one is far more likely?

More likely?

That you are wrong and do not understand MMA.

 

[TUFNewb]

Ah, when children learn "logical fallacy". It's priceless.

Is it a logical fallacy to say "the Specialist diagnosed this as Parkinson's Disease" ?

If the doctor is a pseudo-scientist who has fucked his brain up with decades of drug use and steroids I would probably seek a second opinion.

 

[LouisBolanos]

More likely?

That you are wrong and do not understand MMA.

What evidence do you have that a pro athlete with highest career pay BY FAR isn't the GOAT?

Every single major sport, including boxing, which is another form of prize fighting like MMA, follows the highest career pay = among GOAT conversation rule. What evidence do you have that Conor is the sole exception to this rule in the entire history of modern pro sports, other than your personal, biased hate for Conor?

 

[JackSchtotll]

If the doctor is a pseudo-scientist who has fucked his brain up with drugs and steroids I would probably seek a second opinion.

Wait....what happened to the "logical fallacy"? Suddenly it's not a "logical fallacy"...it depends on what you say? How does it work.

Also, you lied and never backed it up or retracted. That's a lot worse than a "fallacy". It's just wrong.

 

[MMAfanJabroniJew]

Conor is by far the highest paid fighter in the history of MMA.

Name me another pro athlete who is by far the highest paid in his or her sport who is not considered undisputed or at the very least, arguable GOAT.

And lol at you accusing others of trolling on a throwaway account like that. The irony.

Being paid more doesn't equate to being a superior fighter in terms on skills and longevity.

Conor has become a laughing stock within MMA circles due to his reluctents to actually defend his title against Khabib and Ferguson ,

Being clowned and exposed by oldman Mayweather as his boxing being vastly overrated.

Got humbled by a jorneyman LW in Nate Diaz and just about won the decision in the rematch.

Conor is at best a very good fighter ..... but GOAT

 

[Koro_11]

There's no "race". Conor's career pay is several times that of Lesnar, and Ronda didn't even get paid as much as Anderson or GSP, her career was way too short.

And GSP and Silva actually strengthen my evidence, because prior to Conor or Lesnar, they were the highest paid MMA fighter of all time, and they were therefore the pre-Conor GOAT.

 

[JackSchtotll]

What evidence do you have that a pro athlete with highest career pay BY FAR isn't the GOAT?

Every single major sport, including boxing, which is another form of prize fighting like MMA, follows the highest career pay = among GOAT conversation rule. What evidence do you have that Conor is the sole exception to this rule in the entire history of modern pro sports, other than your personal, biased hate for Conor?

What if the best shows up before the sport has a market that allows for the earnings you hold as the sole parameter to make this judgement?

 

[LouisBolanos]

Being paid more doesn't equate to being a superior fighter in terms on skills and longevity.

All you guys ever do is regurgitate the same baseless opinions. Your opinions do not equal facts. Here are the FACTS:

Highest paid NFL player: Peyton Manning, small pay lead over 2nd/3rd places, in GOAT conversation.
Highest paid golfer: Tiger Woods, huge lead over second place, undiputed GOAT
Highest paid basketball player (adjusted for inflation): MJ, GOAT
Highest paid boxer: Mayweather Jr., disputed GOAT
Highest paid tennis player: pretty much a tie between Federer and Djokovic, both in GOAT talk
Highest paid MMA fighter BY FAR: Conor McGregor, GOAT

The FACT is there is a perfect correlation between highest pay and GOAThood in all of pro sports.

 

[George Costanza]

Do you have proof for that or are you talking straight out of your ass?



Again, do you have evidence of this happening or are you talking out of your ass?

Name me another pro athlete (who's not in your imagination), with career pay that is by far the highest in his or her sport (again, actual verifiable pay, not imaginary scenarios), who's not considered one of the GOATs. I'll wait.



>100 posts, 200 likes throwaway

Troll indeed.

Fedor earnings 2008-2017: $6,400,000

Ronda Career Earnings: $6,500,000 in 2015 alone

http://thesportsdaily.com/2017/07/28/fedor-emelianenko-career-earnings-fox11/

https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/mma-ufc/a-look-at-ronda-rouseys-net-worth-on-her-29th-birthday/

Your error is comparing MMA to any other sport. In other sports talent directly correlates to money made. Peyton Manning wins football games, takes his team to the Super Bowl, wins the super bowl, his team makes more money. Same with nearly every sport. In MMA you don't need talent to attract viewers and make the UFC money. George Clooney vs Lio DiCaprio would be the highest grossing MMA event of all time no question. However, would people watch them play tennis, soccer, or basketball professionally?

If you think prime Conor beats prime GSP I can't help you.

I have one last question for you: If Conor was to return and get starched by Khabib, Tony and let's say RDA then retire would he still be GOAT because of his all time earnings?

 

[danny23]

Summing up: it's up to Anderson and Fedor. Those other guys people try to throw in the very best ever are not in the conversation.

Yeah like Joe is some god in MMA whose word we all have to follow. Just an opinion of someone who has never fought and is a peanut brained stoner and junkie.You relate to him well.

 

[Literally Bricked]

Joe Rogan has some hidden gay insecurity hate for GSP for some reason.

By any other criteria, other than "Finishes", GSP is the clear GOAT and for Rogan to not even acknowledge him is ridiculous.

I am pretty sure Rogan once fucked a girl from QC and she told him his dick was small.

 

[JackSchtotll]

Yeah like Joe is some god in MMA whose word we all have to follow. Just an opinion of someone who has never fought and is a peanut brained stoner and junkie.You relate to him well.

Do you know me personally?

 

[LouisBolanos]

What if the best shows up before the sport has a market that allows for the earnings you hold as the sole parameter to make this judgement?

Then he wouldn't be the GOAT, because lack of market = lack of talent pool = lack of competition. The sports with the most money overall (NFL in US, soccer globally) are also the sports with the most talented athletes. That's not a coincidence, money is simply the best metric.

Any difference in pay can otherwise be compared directly and fairly by adjusting for inflation.