I had similar thoughts with you on this matter and it's nice that I see you taking a stance on this.
Me and thousands more guys learned about this stance and these old school tactics that Wylie almost quoted without changing a word, from Dadi's video on Burley.
Ok, this is indeed the way many old school fighters fought. This style of boxing is not your partners and your own creation of course, but you guys analyzed it and conceptualized and teach your own distilled version.
He can't use the concepts and terminology you made famous and pass it in his videos as his own, especially when he takes such a big issue on plagiarizing himself, with other guys who are on the boxing analysis business.
And putting that matter aside, this video doesn't provide any new insight into Louis. It's just rehashing stuff that has been mentioned in the past several times.
Only the first page of this thread provides three times more information.
The same applies for his video about Willie Pep. If you have nothing new to add then why make a video?
Pretty much this, although he CAN use it technically. Though Dadi and I have discussed this between us and the agreement is we have to set the bar HIGHER. We're not making the kind of youtube money these guys likely are, but that is also largely due to the fact that we're actually teaching this stuff to people in real life and don't have time to exploit/extrapolate notions of others. Like I said, I wouldn't mind at all if there were some kind of reference. Even Harry Otty referenced Dadi, and he's THE Burley Historian. This didn't really mean a whole lot to me until I started trying to earn a living and support a Family as a trainer, lemme tell ya, it ain't easy. And even ONE mention from someone who has THOUSANDS of views on their page when I know my words are coming out of their fingers would be a nice advertisement.
I think it is not 100% correct. Though the concepts in his video are not new (i.e they were already mentioned in quite a lot of videos\threads here) - the guy clearly has a good eye. And he depicts quite a lot of interesting moments that show the application of those principles. That in itself is already worth watching.
I agree, Wylie, Osta (who actually shared his McCallum video with me and talked to me about Mike a bit) and Streetz do have good eyes. And this Sport could use more good eyes telling people WHAT to look for. It just doesn't need to be done in a manner that suggests they knew something others didn't all along, that's deceptive. Even Dadi and I don't perpetuate that,we worked hard for our knowledge. I held a spit bucket for 2 years for Amateur and Pro fighters before venturing to train anyone myself.
I personally have used concepts and terminology I've picked up from you and Dadi in the analysis I write, but I do my best to link the thread or video I got it from (plus nobody pays me). It was weird watching that video and seeing things described almost exactly as in the Burley video without any reference to it. I remember seeing another awhile back by a different guy who even used the exact same image of modern vs classical stances as the Burley video but made no mention of the source. It would be one thing if they demonstrated these things in a different context, but when they don't even bother to change the examples and are making money off that it doesn't seem right.
Agreed.
I feel you guys. Now I really enjoyed this video. It's great because it's a visual companion to the analysts and discussion from this forum. While watching it, I figured Wylie used this forum for a lot of his research. I can understand you guy's ambivalence to videos like these. Sinister and others have put in a lot of work educating guys like me over here on this board. These guys are the unsung heroes while others seem to take out sized credit. This is not to blast Wylie because I enjoy his videos and I don't know how he does his research. But I don't appreciate you guys over here as well.
Like I said earlier, more of this information out there is unequivocally a good thing. Ultimately, for boxing, it'll do more good than harm if some people get slighted in the process. Thankfully with the existence of the internet, at least mine and Dadi's names won't die, and guys like us, Billy Briscoe, Lyte Burley, Wilson Pitts, and many other guys carrying old school torches can reach out much much easier than before. There's even a young(ish) trainer at my Gym who studied under Clemente Medina who I talked into training people who is doing really really well. There's new life being breathed into these principals. And that's great.
That being said, we do have to remain competitive. Even teaching this stuff in-person is no easy hustle. In a microwave world people want everything last week. They want to be good already, or told they're good because they read some stuff and watched some videos. Doing this shit under stress is a different animal. The boxing gym is no place for idealism. That's the only disservice some of this information can do. You don't wanna try to learn it all by watching youtube vids. If it means THAT much to you, you need to seek out an instructor. I mean, imagine if Luke Skywalker learned his force and light saber skills from watching clips of Yoda. Ain't happening. He wasn't all that good and was taught first-hand by TWO Jedi Masters. There's a big difference between knowing stuff about this craft, and performing this craft.
That's why as things progress, that's what you're going to see out of Dadi and I. Like the thread I just answered a question in about the classic stance and taller fighters. I gave a video reference. What you're going to see when you look at our media isn't going to be merely us saying: "hey watch this video and read our description of it." You're actually going to see fighters being built. That's how my youtube channel is formatted right now. Though there's no spoon-feeding of what you're seeing, yet.