Joaquin Phoenix as The Joker - How does he do?

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Will Joaquin Phoenix make a good Joker

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  1. Leonard Haid

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    Is this that dumb 'origins' film? If so it's too bad because I think Phoenix is a great choice to play Mr J. But trying to explain the Jokers madness isn't going to go well I'm betting.
     
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    he can do anything.
     
  4. Mariah Larry

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    I find a lot of Scorsese's films are narratively nebulous and often times it's up for debate exactly what we're seeing. I think that works for a Joker origin. I think Scorsese isn't directing this one, but I could see how a highly ambiguous film might work.
     
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    Would have preferred Adrien Brody.

    Always thought he could have made a perfect Joker


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  6. AGGAMEMNON66

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    Maybe. But trying to give you the Boogeymans backstory is kind of a direct shot on the B-mans street cred when you find out his real name is Thad and that his mom used to read him Dr Seuss stories before bedtime.


    The Boogeyman is more effective when all you know about him is that.. he's the fucking Boogeyman, and he's gonna getcha
     
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    As a general rule I agree with this, but there are exceptions to every rule, & personally I thought they kinda nailed it with this one



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    Killing Joke wasn't meant be canon tho, was it?
     
  9. Mariah Larry

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    DC's funny about what makes it into canon.

    Selina Kyle's hooker history wasn't canon until Frank Miller made her one in THE DARK KNIGHT/YEAR ONE.

    I feel that way about Wolverine's backstory. The more we know about who he was before he became the best there is at what he does, the weaker he becomes.

    Barry Windsor-Smith's WEAPON X saga elegantly played into an origin while still making his history mysterious (if only out of deference to Claremont), and then Larry Hama (I think) inserted a neat save-all: memory implants. Which meant that any, some or all the origin stories could be regarded as false.

    And it's kind of the same with the Joker. I feel that largely his origin stories are couched as tales being recounted by unreliable narrators.
     
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    Not sure I can see him in that role quite as well and honestly I'm not sure I'd want him committed to the MCU to that degree, as has been said post comeback he has a strong case for being the best working actor with The Master, Her, Inherant Vice and You Were Never Really There.
     
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    Yeah, I'll agree with this to an extent. But certain personas lean more heavily than others on the mystery. And The Joker falls further into that category than just about any character I can think of.
     
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    Don’t know or care.

    I loved it, therefore it is canon.

    That’s my barometer



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    It suck cause it is so dependent on the writing and story. He would be a perfect version of the Joker from The Dark Knigh Returns arc.

    He has serious acting chops and could absolutely kill the role.
     
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    Joaquin could play the Ledger Joker as good or better than Ledger did. And that is saying a lot because Ledger nailed it. But that is the problem now as Joaquin's joker would likely look too much like Ledgers.




    Now this is someone I never thought of for the role and he might be just the right guy to put a new spin on the Joker. I support this.

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    I thought Joaquin Pheonix was a woman
     
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    At the time, it was rumored the movie was going to take a darker role
     
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    It was and is
    Frank Miller loves hookers
     
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    So Leto is really done?? And Batffleck is done too??

    Just scrap it and start again.
     

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