Joanna Challenger says UFC 231 title win makes her GOAT of Women's MMA

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  1. Cooliox

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    Joanna is the wmma goat. She for sure beat rose the second time
     
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    I'm not sure who else is in the running. Rousey was it when WMMA in the UFC was in it's infancy, finishing fights in a weak division. When the competition level rose slightly, she got finished twice in a row. I guess if Nunes beat Cyborg she would have a solid case, but outside of a couple wins over Valentina, she's just been beating up relatively unremarkable, unathletic and past-it fighters. Joanna defended her belt multiple times against quality fighters who remained at the top of the division after losing to her. She looked like the weight-cut affected her significantly in her first loss to Rose, and she probably could have won the second time had she forced the clinch a bit more instead of just beating Rose up there when Rose made the mistake of engaging in it.

    Which female fighter is more established than her if she beats Valentina and becomes champion in a second weight-class? Rose? Maybe if she beats Andrade it's close because of their head-to-head, but at the moment her only truly career-defining wins are against Joanna. Meanwhile, Joanna's record will contain two wins against Gadelha, a win over Andrade, a win over Karolina and a win over Valentina, as well as having won two belts. I think her case for being WMMA's GOAT, should she beat Valentina, is very strong, at least temporarily.
     
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    I agree about dc not being goat...but everyone loses...and joanna did defend quite a few times before losing...she may not even win this fight coming up..
     
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    jones never tested positive in the 1st fight..and it was already ruled that the smidgeon found in jon's blood, would have no benefit in the fight...given that he tested negative in all the tests leading up to the fight.
     
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    If Joanna beats Valentina she's the WMMA GOAT and it's not up for debate

    She hasn't made a career out of beating up smaller women from a lower weight class, hasn't only beaten unranked low quality opposition, hasn't attained insane physical advantages over opponents from years of steroid abuse.

    She would have have defeated the #1 Flyweight in the world, became the first 2 division WMMA Champ, and have several dominant title defenses in the most stacked WMMA division.

    You have to be an absolute delusional retard to ignore these facts and not call her the GOAT.
     
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  7. Cooliox

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    Hi Joanna. Stop being delusional. Thanks
     
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    Makes no sense. If Joanna beats Valentina, it means that Rose is the uncrowned 2-division WMMA champion
     
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    Who?
     
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    Her deep wommenz mma droolz boys rule. Don’t make stupid statements. And JJ is more in the goat convo then Cyborg. Name the last two cans she fought. Go
     
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    TGArthur You can't lose if you win the fight.

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    Joanna more goat than Cyborg?? LOOOOOL ok, now your comments make sense
     
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    You can beat GOAT WMMA fighter if you lose in your prime......twice!
     
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    But I don't think anyone argues that DC is the GOAT. Normally you'll hear Fedor, Anderson, Jones, BJ, Aldo, etc. Rarely DC.
     
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    Joanna SilverMedal?
    Joanna RunnerUp?
    Joanna SecondFiddle?
     
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    Noticed you didn’t name anyone of note that she has beaten.....
     
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    So please elaborate... what does it take to be in the GOAT conversation?

    DC became champ in every organisation and every weightclass he competed in. LHW and HW. Only flaw is losing to a notorious cheater.
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    Joanna Tap2Strikes
     
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    exactly. You're not even the best in your prime... but somehow your GOAT? LOL
     
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    True, but Rose doesn't look dominate outside of Joanna which is her own fault. Every time she's loses a fight she disappears for 10-12 months.
     
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    Still looks more dominant than Joanna
     

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