Japan needs migrants badly

[TheLastEmperorReurns]

Does anybody really think the Japanese, the nation that brought us the rape of Nanking and more recently tentacle rape pornography and pornography centered around women looking and sounding like children, are in the position to lecture anybody about rape?

Considering that Japan has much lower rates of sexual assault than the US, yes.

 

[TheGreatA]

Considering that Japan has much lower rates of sexual assault than the US, yes.

The Japanese have been successfully able to re-direct the brutal legacy of an extremely chauvinistic military culture, and its collapse, to the realms of fantasy. They ought to be applauded for that.

I'm sure that they will eventually reach a period of time where they have been removed far enough from the action, to not even entertain the fantasy.

Americans don't really understand how it is to live as history's villains, the "bad guys" of the Bond movies. Whose ancestors are acknowledged as the men who raped, pillaged and murdered their way into the history books. Except perhaps more recently, now that they've began self-chastising. There must be some way that you must purge that "inherent evil" that you've been infected with, by birth. For the Japanese it seems to be, well, whatever the hell they're doing.

I'd say that Japanese drawing sick cartoons is still a better alternative to Americans utilizing vulnerable junkie chicks to make their porn. From a pragmatic perspective, atleast.

 

[TheLastEmperorReurns]

Americans don't really understand how it is to live as history's villains, the "bad guys" of the Bond movies. Except perhaps more recently, now that they've began self-chastising. There is some way that you must purge that "inherent evil" that you've been infected with, by birth.

Americans are one of the biggest villains in modern history.

Few bad people consider themselves bad- similarily, no society that is characteristically destructive and poisonous to the rest of the world will think of itself as so.

There are few cases in modern history that can be compared to the horrendous slavery of the US and the genocide of Native Americans.

The idea that Americans aren't the villains of this modern world is mostly shared by Americans themselves. Thick-headed, self-absorbed, daft, and ignorant. Not a particularly wise group of people.

I'd say that Japanese drawing sick cartoons are still a better alternative to Americans utilizing vulnerable junkie chicks to make their porn.

You might be exaggerating the prevalence+popularity of those weird fantasy porns in Japan and not considering similar forms of entertainment that exist in America [or the West in general]. Most millennials are familiar with those weird oddities from Japan because they're so shocking, unfamiliar, and foreign to their experiences that they become entrenched in their minds and come into their heads whenever they think of Japan. An unfair association is then made between the entire country of Japan and a tiny, fringe segment that is involved in atrocious porn.

You impress me as a victim of this kind of unthoughtful opinion-formation.

 

[TheGreatA]

Americans are one of the biggest villains in modern history.

Few bad people consider themselves bad- similarily, no society that is characteristically destructive and poisonous to the rest of the world will think of itself as so.

There are few cases in modern history that can be compared to the horrendous slavery of the US and the genocide of Native Americans.

The idea that Americans aren't the villains of this modern world is mostly shared by Americans themselves. Thick-headed, self-absorbed, daft, and ignorant. Not a particularly wise group of people.

Americans are a good example of the often contradicting nature of man. By all accounts, they are history's heroes. I cannot imagine a world without the impact of America, and how brutal it would be, to me, to everybody. But they have also resorted to the most villainous acts.

I think it is fine that Americans focus on the "good". But to be intellectually honest, they also need to decipher what the evil means, without necessarily reveling in it, in the same way that some of the defeated civilizations do.

You might be exaggerating the prevalence+popularity of those weird fantasy porns in Japan and not considering similar forms of entertainment that exist in America [or the West in general]. Most millennials are familiar with those weird oddities from Japan because they're so shocking, unfamiliar, and foreign to their experiences that they become entrenched in their minds and come into their heads whenever they think of Japan. An unfair association is then made between the entire country of Japan and a tiny, fringe segment that is involved in atrocious porn.

You impress me as a victim of this kind of unthoughtful opinion-formation.

I don't think there's a statement that I've made, that has exaggerated its impact. Obviously it's a niche thing in popular culture. Not something that is paraded around by the Japanese themselves, the same way that porn isn't necessarily being paraded around by the Americans.

I was merely referring to the fact that the same "niche" that raped, robbed, and murdered their way to the history books, are now raping, robbing and murdering, in fantasy only. It is not as if all Japanese soldiers were rapists or murderers, the same way that not all Japanese can be caricatured as weird perverts. But Japan has done a good job in making this element of people rather harmless, instead of emboldening them as they used to, through a brutal military culture, where the biggest brute, with the least empathy, survived over the others.

There are very few societies where there aren't rapists or murderers or just mentally sick, deranged people. What matters is how you deal with them. Japan seems to be dealing with them just well enough. Can't complain.

Their problems have to do with other aspects of the society. Not how much rape or sexual assault they have.

 

[Necromantic]

http://www.businessinsider.com/japan-fertility-crisis-2017-4
"
The daily constraints have made for a worrisome trend. Japan has entered a vicious cycle of low fertility and low spending that has led to trillions in lost GDP and a population decline of 1 million people, all within just the past five years. If left unabated, experts forecast severe economic downturn and a breakdown in the fabric of social life.

Mary Brinton, a Harvard sociologist, tells Business Insider that the situation will get only worse until Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and his cabinet get with the times. Of the ongoing crisis, she says, "This is death to the family.""


They are losing millions in population and trillions of dollars. Husband and wife working 16 hours a day. There's no snoo snoo time.

The only solution I see is for Japan to stop being racist and accept some migrants or see their old bigot ways go extinct. Acceptance or extinction? Your choice!! Thoughts?

But Swift’s refusal to “go dark” with her personais consistent with the basic paradox that has defined her celebrity image for as long as she has been famous.

 

[vespasian]

Japan will be populated by robots.

 

[TheLastEmperorReurns]

Americans are a good example of the often contradicting nature of man. By all accounts, they are history's heroes.

I strongly beg to disagree. I assume that you're from Finland based on your profile information- so I can imagine a couple of reasons why you romanticize America [either that or you may possibly be an American].

However, coming from a Russian perspective, I believe that Americans were the bad guys in the Cold War and many other cases in history [communism was a failed experiment and inadvertently led to much pain and suffering for millions of people, but there was much suffering, bloodshed, and injustice on both sides.]. Principally because of the philosophical positions of both sides. The Soviet Union pretended to strive for the ideals of equality [economic and racial] and brotherhood. The United States pretended to strive for the ideals of freedom and individualism. In my value system [political and philosophical debates often break down to opposing value systems], there's more truth, beauty, and justice in the ideals of equality and collectivism [obligations and sacrifices for one another] than the ideals of freedom and individualism [which I believe to be intellectualized expressions of egotism].

The worst crimes of the modern era:

• 400 years of slavery
• genocide of Native Americans
• Nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki
• carpet-bombing and agent orange on Southeast Asia

How can the US be the good guy of the world when the country was one of the last countries in the world to abandon slavery?

That colors more than 75% of America's existence.

Enter the second half of the 20th century and you have America in a geopolitical contest against the Soviet Union.

A century after being one of the last countries to abandon slavery, America finds itself on the side of European imperialists while the Soviet Union transcends racial philosophy and strives to materialize the fantasy of Utopian egalitarianism where all people are financially secure and equal despite racial background.

America's ideological export?

The freedom and individual expression to tattoo your own dick.

So let's start the story from scratch.

America is born out of an oligarchic backlash against the British monarchy.

The wealthy Americans didn't enjoy paying taxes and formulated a new country.

The new country is built on blood. Native Americans are killed off. Entire races of people covered with cement underground.

And then another race of people are imported from a different continent, where they're beaten and forced into slavery until the 20th century.

20th century comes along and America spends most of it supporting brutal far-right, genocidal dictators and dropping nuclear weapons that level cities.

What kind of twisted hero is this?

 

[TheGreatA]

I'd strongly beg to disagree. I assume that you're from Finland based on your profile information- so I can imagine a couple of reasons why you romanticize America [either that or you may possibly be an American].

I don't really have a particular reason to romanticize America. Historically, America prevented Finland from occupying Soviet lands (and partaking in Nazi siege of Leningrad and assault on Murmansk to cut off U.S. supply lines) by threatening them with an invasion. This destroyed any plans of establishing a "Greater Finland" alongside Nazi Germany, and resulted in the repressed, "small" state of Finland today, as Nazi Germany came to eventually lose the war due to the constant supply of American material to the Soviets, with Finland being forced to servitude for the Soviet Union.

However, I also acknowledge that if America hadn't done what it did, I'm not so sure what sort of a path we would've led as a country. I do not think it would've been a moral one.

However, coming from a Russian perspective, I believe that Americans were the bad guys in the Cold War and many other cases in history [communism was a failed experiment and inadvertently led to much pain and suffering for millions of people, but there was much suffering, bloodshed, and injustice on both sides.]. Principally because of the philosophical positions of both sides. The Soviet Union pretended to strive for the ideals of equality [economic and racial] and brotherhood. The United States pretended to strive for the ideals of freedom and individualism. In my value system [political and philosophical debates often break down to opposing value systems], there's more truth, beauty, and justice in the ideals of equality and collectivism [obligations and sacrifices for one another] than the ideals of freedom and individualism [which I believe to be intellectualized expressions of egotism].

The worst crimes of the modern era:

• 400 years of slavery
• genocide of Native Americans
• Nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki
• carpet-bombing and agent orange on Southeast Asia

Sure.

I disagree entirely to the most fundamental degree, I believe that there is more beauty in freedom and individualism, which is why I've come to prefer America over any other "super-power" alternative, including Russia. The continued rule of the United States, is the only possibility for a Finnish man to continue on a purposeful path towards individualism and freedom against the repression of a collective, as he always has strived to, since the pagan days.

Those crimes are terrible but there are many that match it.

 

[Bald1]

I strongly beg to disagree. I assume that you're from Finland based on your profile information- so I can imagine a couple of reasons why you romanticize America [either that or you may possibly be an American].

However, coming from a Russian perspective, I believe that Americans were the bad guys in the Cold War and many other cases in history [communism was a failed experiment and inadvertently led to much pain and suffering for millions of people, but there was much suffering, bloodshed, and injustice on both sides.]. Principally because of the philosophical positions of both sides. The Soviet Union pretended to strive for the ideals of equality [economic and racial] and brotherhood. The United States pretended to strive for the ideals of freedom and individualism. In my value system [political and philosophical debates often break down to opposing value systems], there's more truth, beauty, and justice in the ideals of equality and collectivism [obligations and sacrifices for one another] than the ideals of freedom and individualism [which I believe to be intellectualized expressions of egotism].

The worst crimes of the modern era:

• 400 years of slavery
• genocide of Native Americans
• Nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki
• carpet-bombing and agent orange on Southeast Asia

How can the US be the good guy of the world when the country was one of the last countries in the world to abandon slavery?

That colors more than 75% of America's existence by the way.

Enter the second half of the 20th century and you have America in a geopolitical contest against the Soviet Union.

A century after being one of the last countries to abandon slavery, America finds itself on the side of European imperialists while the Soviet Union transcends racial philosophy and strives to materialize the fantasy of Utopian egalitarianism where all people are financially secure and equal despite racial background.

America's ideological export?

The freedom and individual expression to tattoo your own dick.

Is this satire?

 

[TheLastEmperorReurns]

Is this satire?

No.

Just a dramatically different outlook on life and set of value systems based on cultural differences and historical interpretation.

 

[TheGreatA]

How can the US be the good guy of the world when the country was one of the last countries in the world to abandon slavery?

That colors more than 75% of America's existence.

Enter the second half of the 20th century and you have America in a geopolitical contest against the Soviet Union.

A century after being one of the last countries to abandon slavery, America finds itself on the side of European imperialists while the Soviet Union transcends racial philosophy and strives to materialize the fantasy of Utopian egalitarianism where all people are financially secure and equal despite racial background.

America's ideological export?

The freedom and individual expression to tattoo your own dick.

So let's start the story from scratch.

America is born out of an oligarchic backlash against the British monarchy.

The wealthy Americans didn't enjoy paying taxes and formulated a new country.

The new country is built on blood. Native Americans are killed off. Entire races of people covered with cement underground.

And then another race of people are imported from a different continent, where they're beaten and forced into slavery until the 20th century.

20th century comes along and America spends most of it supporting brutal far-right, genocidal dictators and dropping nuclear weapons that level cities.

What kind of twisted hero is this?

America is the twisted hero that resided on the moral gray areas and has mostly found itself on the side of good.

Let's face it. We don't even want to get into what the Soviet Union has done. Let alone what it would've done, if it weren't for America balancing the scales. Not to mention that it's far easier to pick apart America's failures because they've come clean about them. Something that cannot necessarily be said about ex-Soviet Union.

The peasants of Czarist Russia and the territories that it ruled (including Finland), were essentially slaves up until Alexander the Liberator, under the feudal system of serfdom.

 

[TheLastEmperorReurns]

America is the twisted hero that resided on the moral gray areas and has mostly found itself on the side of good.

Let's face it. We don't even want to get into what the Soviet Union has done. Let alone what it would've done, if it weren't for America balancing the scales. Not to mention that it's far easier to pick apart America's failures because they've come clean about them. Something that cannot necessarily be said about ex-Soviet Union.

The peasants of Czarist Russia and the territories that it ruled (including Finland), were essentially slaves up until Alexander the Liberator, under the feudal system of serfdom.

Moral failures?

Moral grayness?

Every atrocity I mentioned were deliberate acts of collective evil.

If you compare American and Russian deliberate atrocities side-by-side, I guarantee you that the former will be immediately apparent as a more demonic, corrupt, and disgusting force in the word.

 

[peytonlucy]

Can we send a super tanker to a Mexican port to "help" the Japanese?

 

[peytonlucy]

Moral failures?

Moral grayness?

Every atrocity I mentioned were deliberate acts of collective evil.

If you compare American and Russian deliberate atrocities side-by-side, I guarantee you that the former will be immediately apparent as a more demonic, corrupt, and disgusting force in the word.

Are you posting to a guy from Finland? Have you heard of the winter war, imbecile?

 

[TheGreatA]

Moral failures?

Moral grayness?

Every atrocity I mentioned were deliberate acts of collective evil.

If you compare American and Russian deliberate atrocities side-by-side, I guarantee you that the former will be immediately apparent as a more demonic, corrupt, and disgusting force in the word.

I disagree, but I do not even see the sense in making such comparisons, because it inevitably turns into a pissing contest. We are talking about what has happened hundreds of years ago. What we ought to be concerned with, is what we are doing today.

I get the sense that you'll try to twist the argument by making the case that the actions of Russians were not deliberate and "unintentional" in spite of their "Communist good-will", while those of the Americans were a deliberate manifestation of individualist will, which is bullshit, but anyway, I cannot serve as the judge of two peoples that I'm not a part of, for whose historical crimes I have no great interest in, outside of those that were committed against my own people.

I'm not out to paint Russia as "evil", and I've never truly even brought up them in the context of this discussion. I think most can agree that America can argue moral superiority to Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan.

All I can say is that a lot of Russians ought to be thankful to America for changing their course of history:

Bolstered by the new German arrivals, the Finnish III Corps launched its final offensive on 30 October. The Soviets had increased their defenses and had moved in additional units from other locations. Nevertheless, Finnish forces took some ground and encircled an entire Soviet regiment. Suddenly on 17 November the Finnish command ordered an end to the offensive despite positive feedback from the field commanders that further ground could be taken. The reason for this sudden change in Finnish behavior was the result of diplomatic pressure by the United States. Prior to the cancellation of the offensive, US diplomats warned Finland that a disruption of US deliveries to the Soviet Union would have serious consequences for Finland. Therefore, Finland became no longer interested in spearheading the offensive. With the Finnish refusal to be involved in the offensive, Arctic Fox came to an end in November and both sides dug in at their current positions.[37][38]

The failure of Silver Fox had a significant impact on the course of the war in the east. Murmansk was a major base for the Soviet Northern Fleet and it was also together with Arkhangelsk the main destination for Allied aid shipped to the Soviet Union. British convoys had been traveling to Murmansk since the summer at the onset of the Soviet-German war, and with the entry of the United States into the war in December 1941, the influx of Western Allied aid increased massively. The United States enacted the Lend-Lease pact in which they vowed to supply the Soviet Union with large quantities of food, oil, and war materiel. One quarter of this aid was delivered via Murmansk. This included large amounts of raw materials, such as aluminium, as well as large quantities of manufactured military goods, including 5,218 tanks, 7,411 aircraft, 4,932 anti-tank guns, 473 million rounds of ammunition and various sea vessels. Those supplies benefited the Soviets significantly and contributed to their resistance.[40][41][42]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Silver_Fox

 

[TheLastEmperorReurns]

The Soviet Union probably would have been defeated by Nazi Germany (and Finland) if it were not for American intervention.

You are correct in that assessment.

Americans are delusional/self-absorbed enough to believe that they were Germany's main opponent in the war. That the contest can be summarized as America vs. Germany/Japan and that other countries played support roles.

The European theater was largely a contest between Nazi German and Great Britain/USSR.

The Pacific Theater was USA vs. Japan but the story of Nazi Germany's defeat is the story of Russian heart, soul, and will over-coming the might of German ego.

All respect to the Finns but if a person existed that basically describes Finland it'd be some weird introverted guy with glasses that lives in the woods

 

[TheGreatA]

The Soviet Union probably would have been defeated by Nazi Germany (and Finland) if it were not for American intervention.

You are correct in that assessment.

Americans are twisted enough to believe that they were Germany's main opponent in the war. That the contest can be summarized as America vs. Germany/Japan and that other countries played support roles.

The European theater was largely a contest between Nazi German and Great Britain/USSR.

The Pacific Theater was USA vs. Japan but the story of Nazi Germany's defeat is the story of Russian heart, soul, and will over-coming the might of German ego.

All respect to the Finns but if a person existed that basically describes Finland it'd be some weird introverted guy with glasses that lives in the woods

Sure, they are delusional about that. Every patriot has a right to be a little bit delusional about his country's respective achievements.

The story of WW2 is that German ego would've overcome Russian heart, soul and will, if it weren't for the pragmatism of the American, to take the side of the Soviets.

Finns are isolated people, for sure, who do not naturally step outside of their boundaries, but the Soviets had provoked them. Even a neutral observer, with no particular interest in Finnish history, would have to admit that the Finnish forces were the finest "winter warriors" of that era, the most accustomed to fighting in harsh, cold climate, with all their weapons and equipment designed to function under those circumstances. Only a century ago, most Finns lived and hunted in solitary conditions, and didn't enjoy the privilege of more developed civilizations.

I take no credit or sense of accomplishment in what those men did because I did not live as they did.

 

[TheLastEmperorReurns]

Sure, they are delusional about that. Every patriot has a right to be a little bit delusional about his country's respective achievements.

The story of WW2 is that German ego would've overcome Russian heart, soul and will, if it weren't for the pragmatism of the American, to take the side of the Soviets.

Finns are isolated people, for sure, who do not naturally step outside of their boundaries, but the Soviets had provoked them. Even a neutral observer, with no particular interest in Finnish history, would have to admit that the Finnish forces were the finest "winter warriors" of that era, the most accustomed to fighting in harsh, cold climate, with all their weapons and equipment designed to function under those circumstances. Only a century ago, most Finns lived and hunted in solitary conditions, and didn't enjoy the privilege of more developed civilizations.

I take no credit or sense of accomplishment in what those men did because I did not live as they did.

The Soviet Union was morally wrong in invading Finland and the Finnish military reaction was among the most impressive in history.

But we're talking about superpowers and the contrasting worldviews that they represent.

Naturally, as a Finn- you're more likely to identify with America because of a shared individualistic outlook on life and grievances towards Russian imperialism in the past.

 

[TheGreatA]

The Soviet Union was morally wrong in invading Finland and the Finnish military reaction was among the most impressive in history.

But we're talking about superpowers and the contrasting worldviews that they represent.

Naturally, as a Finn- you're more likely to identify with America because of a shared individualistic outlook on life and grievances towards Russian imperialism in the past.

I think I share a more balanced outlook than that. In fact, I'm often called a Russian sympathizer on this forum, due to criticizing American policy. Even a Russian troll.

My main criticism of Russia is that they need to develop their moral base further, and re-establish the legacy of true Russian philosophy (not Marxism), if they want to be a true world power. They ought to look into the works of men like Dostoyevsky, to realize what was lost. Not the works of Lenin or Trotsky. All pretense and deceit must be abandoned, eventually.

The Soviet Union, in my opinion, is not a true representation of what Russia ought to be, or how Russians ought to act. But it will weigh them down for the coming decades. The experiment turned a soulful, spontaneous people, into systematic cogs in a machine.

 

[TheLastEmperorReurns]

My main criticism of Russia is that they need to develop their moral base further, and re-establish the legacy of true Russian philosophy (not Marxism), if they want to be a true world power. They ought to look into the works of men like Dostoyevsky, to realize what was lost. Not the works of Lenin or Trotsky.

The Soviet Union, in my opinion, is not a true representation of what Russia ought to be, or how Russians ought to act. But it will weigh them down for the coming decades.

Tolstoy and Dostoevsky are my main intellectual influences and nostalgia for the Soviet Union is mostly shared by the elderly in Russia.

I personally see it as a period of triumph compared to the 20th-century experiences of other world powers of that time.

While America, Germany, Great Britain, France, and Japan spent the century on imperialism and racialism, Russia sought to manifest a utopian, egalitarian ideal.

To say that Russia needs to develop a farther moral base is an insane statement to make by a Westerner considering how spiritually and morally immature the West is.