James Toney how will history remember him? | Page 2

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  1. KillerIsBack V2 Brown Belt

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    Yes he is, and you still didn't provide examples or arguments of why not.
    I don't care if your chin is adamantium, no MW in history has had 20 HW matches without getting finished. Nor has anybody come close to finishing him in his 92 match boxing career.
    No boxer in history has even come close to a fraction of that empirical proof of defensive capability.
     
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    Well you forgot about Whitaker and Locche. He was great defensively, and more like Mayweather, in that they made you miss and made you pay. His offense and power were so good maybe it costs him a little when considering the best defensive fighters.
     
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    That has something to do with toughness and durability too. Empirically speaking we'd need to examine the punch stat percentages.
     
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    basically how I feel.. but with the addition of the PED asterix... but you never know who is on what these days..

    That being said, Toney, Bhop, Floyd, and Sweet P are my favorite boxers of all time. All pretty much tied for being my favorite, for a number of reasons.
     
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    That would make a great double header for an all-time fantasy card.
     
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    lmao. I never thought that, but you are absolutely right.

    Just for laughs, my other top favs are Cotto and Trinidad (also a great fight).

    edit: but just to be clear, those 4 are my favorite. I love defense
     
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    Those are some of my favorites too. Cotto maybe isn't as great as the rest but he sure was exciting.
     
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    Cotto is the first fighter I watched his pro debut, all the way till current. Nostalgia overload.
     
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    I feel like a cigar.

    Dude is a legend.
     
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    Lennox said he used to see Toney drink 2 leters of cola between sets. This was in the start of his HW run. The fact he was both an old fart and trains like shit, yet still landed KOs on HWs and never gotten Finished himself means his technique had to be polished as fuck.
     
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    The best underachiever in boxing history.
     
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    actual boxing fans should remember him as one of the best defensive fighters of all time.

    watching prime toney, shit was fucking art.

    now i have to go watch toney HL vids, BURGER KING BABY.
     
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    I'll always remember him by his war with Jirov. One of the GOAT fights in boxing.
     
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    Aggressive, tough son of b.

    Always going 100 percent including in sparring.
     
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    Dude was slick and smart.

    He was also smart enough to have one of the bigger UFC paydays ever. Hilarious guy too.
     
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    Toney ate alot of shots from Jiv in their fight


    And Jir went on to give Messi braim damage.
     
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    Yes! Exactly
     
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    As a sacrifice presented to Randy Couture.
    His boxer's blood soaked the ground of the sacred Octagon, letting all the world gaze upon MMA's superiority.
     
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    To be fair, Mesi is clear headed and well spoken today, whereas Toney mumbles incoherently and likely is going down the same path as Norris, Quarry, etc.
     
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    He got stopped in a fight with Randy Couture :) :) :)
     
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