Jacare should have won that fight vs Gastellum.

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  1. george14

    george14 Green Belt

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    Seriously? How about Stipe? D1 wrestler and baseball. Mitrione played in the NFL. Conor is insanely athletic.

    They not dark skinned enough?
     
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    If you think there are thousands of guys who can beat Josh Barnett in a fight, you are sadly misguided lol.
     
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    DC was an All-American out of OSU over a decade ago. We crown 8 new All-American Division I wrestlers at heavyweight every year. DC wrestled - I shit you not - 184lbs.

    There are an enormous amount of elite athletes with very well credentialed grappling skills in the USA alone, let alone the world, who are far better athletes than any version of Josh Barnett. That is why DC could literally throw him over his head, despite only having 9 fights experience, and being grossly undersized.

    If elite athletes ever entered heavyweight MMA, they would run roughshod over Josh, just like DC did. You would be shocked to know how many Division I All American heavyweights are teaching high school gym for 45k and benefits. Thats how bad the risk -vs- reward pay is in MMA.
     
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    damn brah ... how do you not see
     
  5. Pilo

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    Yeah I agree it was not a 10-8. All I said was, to me, round 2 looked closer to a 10-8 than round 1 did, although none deserved to be scored that way.
     
  6. pizzle

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    I almost am starting to feel bad for Jacare even tho he's making good money and doing what he loves every time he's on the verge of a title shot or in a title shot eliminator he loses

    Just a real good fighter and good everywhere for a specialist. He'd be an interesting champ, and I think a lot of American fans know who he is and like him

    Now Kelvin got the win and it's back to square one
     
  7. IGotAHugePeckah

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    I thought Jacare won too but if was a close fight and not decisive for either guy so fuck it
     
  8. SeattleFightFan

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    this fight is a prime example of how fans scrutinize fight results.

    Jacare outstruck his opponent and lost. most seem to agree he lost rightfully so, some don't. all agree it could have gone either way. it was a virtual tie.

    but because fighter A got the nod, people are over-exaggerating his greatness. and because fighter B didn't, people are under-exaggerating his.

    it happens every few years. Machida v Rampage was probably the worse.

    EDIT: of course the winner should get a title shot before the loser. that's only logical. but when it comes to rankings or overall skill, they're both still about #4 and #5. maybe they swapped positions. at best.
     
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    It was a close fight, but the last 2 rounds I had for Gastelum because it looked like Jacare was fighting to survive where Kelvin was fighting to finish.
     
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  11. pride_is_back

    pride_is_back Blue Belt

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    Jacare won.

    Kelvin is lucky as fuck and looks like a total amateur in round 1. Reminds me of Homer Simpson going into boxing in that Simpson's episode.

    It will be a total disaster if he wins a title. You can call it a nadir era in MMA.
     

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