Italy: Elections on Sunday. Populist Victory?

[Bacco]

Also is hilarius see germans bitching about italians refusing to do "theyr duty" for EU (germany) instead be actually mad at Merkel for the waaay more direct and long lasting damage she's causing to theyr own country and society

Seems who embrace cuck lifestyle does'nt like see others reject it

Strange, they should be twice proud... intellectual superiority and shit

 

[Supereem]

Also is hilarius see germans bitching about italians refusing to do "theyr duty" for EU (germany) instead be actually mad at Merkel for the waaay more direct and long lasting damage she's causing to theyr own country and society

Seems who embrace cuck lifestyle does'nt like see others reject it

Strange, they should be twice proud... intellectual superiority and shit

Germany invited the immigrants and should deal with them. They should also support he med countries that now have to house them on account of Germany.

The German is not fit to lead Europe.

 

[Prutfis]

I thought the vote for sanctions has to be unanimous. Hungary won't vote to sanction Poland, and the same goes the other way. Croatia, Italy and Austria are watching as well.

So far it´s a legal matter. Not something that needs a vote as such

 

[Prutfis]

I sincerely hope the Poles do, "get away with it" then

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Hey so do i. Personally I think Trumps wall should be around Africa and the ME, but that´s not whats being discussed.

 

[Prutfis]

holy fuck @ this level of delusion

holy fuck @ ignoring 99% of source material, focusing on just one sentence from one source (out of context) and literally ignoring the rest

holy fuck @ complaining about something being taken out of context and then posting the following sentences "Handsome new houses are seen all over town. Shops do a roaring trade during holidays, when crowds come back from Belgium to spend their euros on cheaper Polish products." without including the next sentence in the paragraph which completely contradicts your point: "Yet Siemiatycze's residents are painfully aware that this is neither an economically nor socially healthy state of affairs."

holy fuck @ your doubling down, apparently artificially decreasing the unemployment rate and a slight increase in wages for certain groups as the population is abandoning the country and towns are getting raped is a "massive benefit" to Poland

if the mass exodus of the polish workforce is a massive benefit to Poland why has their government been begging for years for people to return?

Lol. So you don´t like it either ey. See how that works?

The financial benefit to Poland really can´t be denied. You are probably Polish so that explains it. I would love it if that welfare leech country fucked of out of the EU. Pay back the several hundred billion you have received in welfare while your at it. See how Poland looks in 10 years. Poland should be on their knees blowing the EU for what they have done for them.

Maybe there are other problems if you are hovering at 14% unemployment and jobs are not being filled. But that evil EU boogeyman always works as a distraction.

 

[21 Savage]

Lol. So you don´t like it either ey. See how that works?

The financial benefit to Poland really can´t be denied. You are probably Polish so that explains it. I would love it if that welfare leech country fucked of out of the EU. Pay back the several hundred billion you have received in welfare while your at it. See how Poland looks in 10 years. Poland should be on their knees blowing the EU for what they have done for them.

Maybe there are other problems if you are hovering at 14% unemployment and jobs are not being filled. But that evil EU boogeyman always works as a distraction.

nothing you just said is relevant to our discussion and im glad to see you've abandon the factually false notion of mass exodus of workforce = massive benefit to poland

 

[Bacco]

I thought the vote for sanctions has to be unanimous. Hungary won't vote to sanction Poland, and the same goes the other way. Croatia, Italy and Austria are watching as well.

Can't even stay consistent with fucking Austria
Fun thing the only true big ally they got is France, wich play theyr best friend shit but will try to stab them into #2 and take EU-princess crown at any given chance of spotlight lol

And that's with fucking Macron of all peoples, imagine if Le Pen won the french throne

Dat german charisma can lead planets i say

 

[HockeyBjj]

Cliffs, who won?

 

[Prex32]

Keep dreaming. You think the EU is going to back down from a shitty country that they financially have by the balls? lol.

well, greece won't take them in now too. what should we do now? greece, in way worse situation than poland is easily saying nope...

 

[RockstarChris]

in before Germany starts throwing Jews into ovens....again...

Same shit as always. The EU is a cancer and they are mad that they got exposed for what it is.

 

[Bald1]

So far it´s a legal matter. Not something that needs a vote as such

Not yet. But if they're found in violation of the migrant redistribution plan, a plan they voted against, then the only recourse is sanctions.

Don't you find it odd that Merkel was allowed to triple the migrant influx without repercussions, unilaterally, yet the border countries have no say in which foreigners to the EU they're to accept in their countries? Both actions are well outside of the powers the EU is supposed to have over their member states.

 

[Bald1]

Can't even stay consistent with fucking Austria
Fun thing the only true big ally they got is France, wich play theyr best friend shit but will try to stab them into #2 and take EU-princess crown at any given chance of spotlight lol

And that's with fucking Macron of all peoples, imagine if Le Pen won the french throne

Dat german charisma can lead planets i say

Well, I haven't looked into Austrian foreign relations in quite some time, but it seems the Austrians are also looking for a way out of housing migrants.

 

[snakedafunky]

Also is hilarius see germans bitching about italians refusing to do "theyr duty" for EU (germany) instead be actually mad at Merkel for the waaay more direct and long lasting damage she's causing to theyr own country and society

Seems who embrace cuck lifestyle does'nt like see others reject it

Strange, they should be twice proud... intellectual superiority and shit

Bitching about what?
How about Italy start to protect its own borders.
Most of those Africans come to Europe because you muppets are too lazy and corrupt to secure your own borders.

 

[Bald1]

Bitching about what?
How about Italy start to protect its own borders.
Most of those Africans come to Europe because you muppets are too lazy and corrupt to secure your own borders.

If they do secure the EU borders as they're obligated to do by law, will they be called xenophobic and racist like Orbán was?

 

[Bacco]

Cliffs, who won?

Cliffs: Of the main 4 players

1st- rightwing team got most votes. Inside it Salvini's party got more votes than mummy Berlusconi's

2nd- an indipendent party won lot of votes, almost as the whole rightwing team by itself

3rd- leftwing team loss definitely. Merkel's lapdog Renzi left his party

4th- a left party that was running alone had to smell everyone's farts

 

[snakedafunky]

If they do secure the EU borders as they're obligated to do by law, will they be called xenophobic and racist like Orbán was?

Not by Germany. Also I am sure Orban wants to be called that
I mean Germany's position might be wrong. But we can make wrong decisions
We don't let anyone just walk into the EU. Because we don't have any outside EU borders.
That is the fault of the countries that are unable to secure their own borders not Germany.
They could have just closed their borders and taken the heat. But they didn't they chose to let them all in.
And now try to paint a picture like its somehow Germanies fault. It is not we didn't let anyone walk into the EU.

In case of Orban and Poland, of course, those refugees are just used for their undermining of democracy and general power grab.
Its a none issue if you look into it. Poland would have to take like 20-30,000 people. From Italy and Greece, not Germany.

 

[21 Savage]

Cliffs, who won?

"The three most likely options now available to the President are a M5S Government propped by the Centre-right, an M5S coalition with the Centre-left or a partnership between the M5S and the League


In order to form a majority Government, the M5S only needs to secure 40 percent of the vote."


basically euroscepticism and anti-establishment won

 

[Bacco]

Bitching about what?
How about Italy start to protect its own borders.
Most of those Africans come to Europe because you muppets are too lazy and corrupt to secure your own borders.

Did'nt Der Spiegel started whining even before elections?
They mad for sure now lol

How about defend borders?
In recent years?

-Deal with Libya was about prevent them from sail, France+Obama destroyed Libya

-Germany & friends declared europe is a free gift amusement park

-the eu being positive about this and ready to condemn who does'nt

-Total change of tone about what was, not long ago, considered "illegal immigration"

-yes corruption, but still to get dem EU $$$, if there was'nt eu spending on it there was'nt much base for corruption on that specific case

-pro-eu/merkel/obama/etc italian puppet as leader


There you got the formula, most of the points were not objectively caused by Italy.
Italy is in the middle due geography.
Hopefully at least last point of the list changed.


Also, sound like you're asking Italy to increase theyr $$$ effort on it, to solve a problem that has been increased incredibly by your own cow (+france)

We did nothing to increase illegal immigration by sea, if anything we had a deal to contain it
A deal that was working too

You want more ships in the mediterranean to watch africa?
Send them, you're welcome
Sound legit, after all is a problem still caused in good portion by german cuckness

Hopefully Italy now will start do more to cover itself (not germany's south), and when fail at it hopefully these economic migrants will just pass and go to the land that called them


If you wat a real solution you will need EU actually wanting to antagonize the invasion and opening an actual big and constant expulsion procedure that each month, week and day send back all these immigrants that demonstrated to be incompatible with our society, keeping the "good ones" and helping them integrate

But again EU wanted none of that, so italians voted for Italy to do it itself

If somebody have to shut the fuck up about current situation are really france and germany lol

I actually feel bad for all these french and germans peoples that are facing the ruin of theyr society only because they're the minority voting for a "no", my honest best wishes to them

 

[Prex32]

Not by Germany. Also I am sure Orban wants to be called that
I mean Germany's position might be wrong. But we can make wrong decisions
We don't let anyone just walk into the EU. Because we don't have any outside EU borders.
That is the fault of the countries that are unable to secure their own borders not Germany.
They could have just closed their borders and taken the heat. But they didn't they chose to let them all in.
And now try to paint a picture like its somehow Germanies fault. It is not we didn't let anyone walk into the EU.

In case of Orban and Poland, of course, those refugees are just used for their undermining of democracy and general power grab.
Its a none issue if you look into it. Poland would have to take like 20-30,000 people. From Italy and Greece, not Germany.

how do you secure the border? shooting at people or letting them drown?
i remember when macedonia begann to build the wall they were called out by merkel for their "brutality". she used both sides, migrants misery and macedonias tough situation for her own political goals.

 

[snakedafunky]

Did'nt Der Spiegel started whining even before elections?
They mad for sure now lol

How about defend borders?
In recent years?

-Deal with Libya was about prevent them from sail, France+Obama destroyed Libya

-German cow & friends declared europe is a free gift amusement park

-the eu being positive about this and ready to condemn who does'nt

-Total change of tone about what was, not long ago, considered "illegal immigration"

-yes corruption, but still to get dem EU $$$, if there was'nt eu spending on it there was'nt much base for corruption on that specific case

-pro-eu/merkel/obama/etc italian puppet as leader


There you got the formula, most of the points were not objectively caused by Italy.
Italy is in the middle due geography.
Hopefully at least last point of the list changed.


Also, sound like you're asking Italy to increase theyr $$$ effort on it, to solve a problem that has been increased incredibly by your own cow (+france)

We did nothing to increase illegal immigration by sea, if anything we had a deal to contain it
A deal that was working too

You want more ships in the mediterranean to watch africa?
Send them, you're welcome
Sound legit, after all is a problem still caused in good portion by german cuckness

Hopefully Italy now will start do more to cover itself (not germany's south), and when fail at it hopefully these economic migrants will just pass and go to the land that called them


If you wat a real solution you will need EU actually wanting to antagonize the invasion and opening an actual big and constant expulsion procedure that each month, week and day send back all these immigrants that demonstrated to be incompatible with our society, keeping the "good ones" and helping them integrate

But again EU wanted none of that, so italians voted for Italy to do it itself

If somebody have to shut the fuck up about current situation are really france and germany lol

I actually feel bad for all these french and germans peoples that are facing the ruin of theyr society only because they're the minority voting for a "no", my honest best wishes to them

This whole thing has been going on in Italy for the last 75 years ever since you betrayed the Reich.
Long before there was an EU. You are simply unable to elect competent politicians.
You were unable to stop the boats for two generations and now its Merkel and Germanys fault?

Give me a fucking break you just voted Berlusconi back into office. Is that Germanys fault as well.
We don't control Italiens borders Italy does. We now have to fix your screwups in North Africa again and the BND makes questionable deals with Warlords in Lybia.
Who do you think is paying for that Italy? You are bankrupt as it is. If it weren't for the ECB buying all Italy's worthless bonds you would be done already.
Where do you think that money comes from?

If you want to achieve anything stop blaming other countries. The reality is that you are to a certain extent unable to govern yourself.
It is not that hard to come with reasonable border security without letting anyone in or shooting at the boats.
But you won't get that with Belusconie.