International Isis/syria/iraq thread

[whougonnacall]

stupid logic. you buy into that isis shit? the us coalition uses/used isis (or so called rebels) to basically secure/control those oil transit zones....yes, isis is bad, but it didn't appear out of nothing.

You arent using logic at all now its just incoherent nonsense
The u.s has been by far and away the primary nemeisis to isis in iraq and syria
Isis didnt appear out of nowhere no...politics in syria and iraq created a perfect storm
but il bet in your world its all cia/iluminati to control oil(syrias not even a large oil producer!! )

 

[whougonnacall]

So
-russia threatens to track all western airtrafic west if euphrates with escorts and aa
Also closed hotline set up to stop mid air collisions (they did this 2 other times....like a crazy ex that phone will ring again no matter what they say)

-israel announces of 6 misslee iran launced only one actualy hit target ..one got close and rest fell short

 

[Videer]

stupid logic. you buy into that isis shit? the us coalition uses/used isis (or so called rebels) to basically secure/control those oil transit zones....yes, isis is bad, but it didn't appear out of nothing.

lol.

 

[o'dubhlaoich]

Remind me again why we cant be allies with Russia and Syria against ISIS? Serious question.

 

[Videer]

Remind me again why we cant be allies with Russia and Syria against ISIS? Serious question.

Why should we ally with shitbags when that is not a requirement to fight daesh?

 

[Rod1]

Remind me again why we cant be allies with Russia and Syria against ISIS? Serious question.

Because they are scum too? with the exception that said scum dont really want to attack the west?

 

[RIPWarrior]

Why are these guys scum?

 

[Prex32]

but il bet in your world its all cia/iluminati to control oil(syrias not even a large oil producer!! )

read again. i said it's to secure the transit zones (after overthrowing assad), not the oil. but that's basically impossible now after the russians stepped in.
syria was the red line for russia.

 

[whougonnacall]

read again. i said it's to secure the transit zones (after overthrowing assad), not the oil. but that's basically impossible now after the russians stepped in.
syria was the red line for russia.

Yeah transit zones ...the whole war startednover transit zones, hundreds of thousands took to the streets risking death and torture for themselves and their families for transit zones

 

[Videer]

read again. i said it's to secure the transit zones (after overthrowing assad), not the oil. but that's basically impossible now after the russians stepped in.
syria was the red line for russia.

Lets see. Overthrowing a regime resulting in a destabilized craphole ruled by a million different groups half of which probably would want to blow up those precious pipelines or bribe Assad. Hmm, tough choice!

 

[Prex32]

Yeah transit zones ...the whole war startednover transit zones, hundreds of thousands took to the streets risking death and torture for themselves and their families for transit zones

i know, cnn told you it's about human rights

 

[whougonnacall]

i know, cnn told you it's about human rights

So we are pretending it was a magic happy utopia where no protests took place and assad didnt start it by having people machine gunned?
Please tell us your rt today version of reality

 

[Satanical Eve]

So we are pretending it was a magic happy utopia where no protests took place and assad didnt start it by having people machine gunned?
Please tell us your rt today version of reality

This all the way. The Arab spring happened with Tunisia and spread. Those in Syria decided to march in protest against Assad and his regime, especially many youths. They wanted him out and basically Assad realized that the only way reform would happen is if he was ousted and he wasn't going to do that. In the end he had his forced fire on the protesters which began the civil war that Syria is currently engulfed in.

Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot

 

[Prex32]

Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot

so supporting uneducated youth and giving them guns was smart? allowing terrorism to spread all over the world as a result wasn't predictable at all...

 

[KOQ24]

This all the way. The Arab spring happened with Tunisia and spread. Those in Syria decided to march in protest against Assad and his regime, especially many youths. They wanted him out and basically Assad realized that the only way reform would happen is if he was ousted and he wasn't going to do that. In the end he had his forced fire on the protesters which began the civil war that Syria is currently engulfed in.

Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot

<18>

Yeah, lets just ignore that they "protested" with AKs in their hands and the Emiratis funneling money & weapons into Syria before the first shot was fired.

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ack-war-intervention-oil-gas-energy-pipelines


The whole thing was a US/Sunni power grab, nothing else.
Luckily the shit didnt work out in Syria

 

[RIPWarrior]

I honestly can't look at these soldiers and consider them scum.

 

[whougonnacall]

so supporting uneducated youth and giving them guns was smart? allowing terrorism to spread all over the world as a result wasn't predictable at all...

Who said they were uneducated? Many of the inital rebels were defecting military who wouldnt fire on civilians so they knew about 'guns' and took their own with them

 

[whougonnacall]

I honestly can't look at these soldiers and consider them scum.

Perhaps u need to read a little from hrw, un, msf , amnesty etc etc and then ul change ur tune....they unquestionably ARE scum

 

[whougonnacall]

<18>

Yeah, lets just ignore that they "protested" with AKs in their hands and the Emiratis funneling money & weapons into Syria before the first shot was fired.

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ack-war-intervention-oil-gas-energy-pipelines


The whole thing was a US/Sunni power grab, nothing else.
Luckily the shit didnt work out in Syria

B.s if theyd all been armed they wouldnt have been massacred and by assads own testimony the rebellion didnt start til about 2- 3 months into the protests.
So we are supposed to believe money made millions take to the streets (all bribed?)risking death and torture cause the cia told them to?
The emrities as u put it had no one to funnel cash to through the muslim brotherhood contacts and other private contacts until assad released all his jihadi prisoners ( back from iraqi) which formed nursta and later isis...all came later not before protests

 

[VivaRevolution]

Crazy CTers talking about how we are in Syria to fight Assad not ISIS. I mean you tin foilers act like it is our stated policy to remove assad, and leave a power vacuum for al-nusra and isis, as if that is what created ISIS in the first place in iraq.......wait a minute.......i see what I did there.....