International Isis/syria/iraq thread

[whougonnacall]

In 2014-2015 you where still claiming that Assad would fall any moment now.

So was everyone .....did u miss russia saving yhe regime?

 

[whougonnacall]

u.s sec of state and saudi foriegn minister publicly confirm commitment to rolling back iran in iraq and iran
They ain't rolling back shit in a shia majority country

Wel see

 

[whougonnacall]

The Saudi's can't even beat sandal wearing Houthi's in Yemen. Their insanely camp foreign minister talks a lot of shit and can't back it up.

Who knows what Trump will do. So far he's reversed nearly everything he said on the campaign trail. Remember that he was insanely anti-Saudi before he was pro. That's most likely his true view of Saudi Barbaria.

I also doubt if Saudi has the money to spend. 100 billion is a lot for a country whose economy is in the toilet and blowing through their money faster than they can buy gold plated bentleys.

Cant even beat? U make ot sound like any backward people should be easy whupped...u forgetting nam or afhanistan

Lol its easy to preduct what hel do for those who see through his b.s
Hel do what ever makes him cash and largely go along with his rabidly anti iranian cabinet and both houses want to do ..thats tackle iran


Yeah they sooo poor lol

 

[whougonnacall]

I do love it when your Al-Qaeda relatives get vaporized, whether it's done by Assad, Russia, Iran or US. I wonder why every group other than Sunni run to government held areas rather than stay in these jihadist paradise of yours.

Maybe cause thats where the tnt barrels and sarin gas doesnt fall dum dum

 

[Orgasmo]

Maybe cause thats where the tnt barrels and sarin gas doesnt fall dum dum

Or maybe they don't get their heads chopped off by your fellow jihadist scums, because your Saudi masters have no issue dropping bomb on civilians. Don't pretend you care about human rights. You're a chickenshit internet jihadist shilling for Al-Qaeda affiliates. At least the Saudis, worthless as they are at fighting, have the guts to drive VIED in Syria. You on the other hand, hide in a basement in the West spreading your "moderate" headchopper propaganda. When you shit gets called out, you form some conspiracy theory about the rest of us being Russian/Iranian agents.

Typical jihadist victim mentality

PS. Your fellow cockroaches just bombed a concert full of children in Manchester, England.

 

[whougonnacall]

Or maybe they don't get their heads chopped off by your fellow jihadist scums, because your Saudi masters have no issue dropping bomb on civilians. Don't pretend you care about human rights. You're a chickenshit internet jihadist shilling for Al-Qaeda affiliates. At least the Saudis, worthless as they are at fighting, have the guts to drive VIED in Syria. You on the other hand, hide in a basement in the West spreading your "moderate" headchopper propaganda. When you shit gets called out, you form some conspiracy theory about the rest of us being Russian/Iranian agents.

Typical jihadist victim mentality

PS. Your fellow cockroaches just bombed a concert full of children in Manchester, England.

Heads chopped off ? Yeah thats happening loads in rebel areas ....like most pro assad scum you love mixinng up isis and the rebels to make them all seem as one
People are fleeing starvation,barrel bombs and gassing....from a genocidal regime and its sociopatic allies (aka your boss putinbot)
Half the country has fled and all cite assad as the reason, the rest going to shitty border refugee camps or goverment areas because they dont want or cant make that gruelling journey

Thats funny iv denoucned al queda and said once their usefulness to the rebels is over they ougtht be wiped out by the others (as the west plan seems to be)
You by contrast have fully supported all of assads actions and allies without a single word of condemnation ever!!!!
Nothing about his vast torture complexes?

Or his staravtion until submission stategies?

Or use of gas sarin and chlorine ?

Or the targetting of civillian infrastructure to ilicit the very movmenet of people you cite?

Or any of the other war crimes his people comit on the reg and have now possibly normalised for future wars?

Or the headchopping (your apparent worst crime as you keep saying it) of his local militas?


Or esp his new foriegn militas(aka est half his offensive fighting force) ...rabbid 'headchoppers' (one milita even known to boil human heads ) who killed our troops in iraq....they are the fucking scum of the earth! Literaly declaring syria practice for war with nato!

Hezbollah...the middle easts biggest drug dealers , terrorist enemies of the west glorified only by the stupid ! Decent fighters yes but utter scum


P.s thatl be isis again..the force that the west and free peoples like the kurds and rebels will wipe out whereas u russians have been indirectly through assad buying their oil and supplying them weapons !

 

[Sauron]

Wel see

Iraq is a democracy now. There's no going back to the 'good old days' of Saddam.

 

[Sauron]

Cant even beat? U make ot sound like any backward people should be easy whupped...u forgetting nam or afhanistan

Tell that to the Saudi's. Only recently MBS said they could beat the Houthi's in one day if they wanted to.

The Saudi's are shit fighters. All the gear and no idea.

Lol its easy to preduct what hel do for those who see through his b.s
Hel do what ever makes him cash and largely go along with his rabidly anti iranian cabinet and both houses want to do ..thats tackle iran
Yeah they sooo poor lol

Nothing is easy to predict in the current environment. There's an obstacle at every juncture - whether it be the Russians, Iraqi democracy or the JCPOA. That agreement is not a bilateral agreement. It's an agreement enshrined at the UNSC. The US lost the core (global) part of its sanctions architecture when it signed the JCPOA. Now the rest of the world are dealing with Iran, and it's not going to be simple to rally the world to Trump's cause when 1) he looks like he's unstable; 2) he's insulted and berated half of them; 3) Iran just had massive voter turnout in its election and just handed Rouhani a serious mandate; and 4) they don't want to go back to the way things were.

 

[whougonnacall]

Iraq is a democracy now. There's no going back to the 'good old days' of Saddam.

Nor should it ..you assume the shia of iraq want iranian domination
Al sadrs comments should hint that isnt the case

 

[whougonnacall]

Tell that to the Saudi's. Only recently MBS said they could beat the Houthi's in one day if they wanted to.

The Saudi's are shit fighters. All the gear and no idea.



Nothing is easy to predict in the current environment. There's an obstacle at every juncture - whether it be the Russians, Iraqi democracy or the JCPOA. That agreement is not a bilateral agreement. It's an agreement enshrined at the UNSC. The US lost the core (global) part of its sanctions architecture when it signed the JCPOA. Now the rest of the world are dealing with Iran, and it's not going to be simple to rally the world to Trump's cause when 1) he looks like he's unstable; 2) he's insulted and berated half of them; 3) Iran just had massive voter turnout in its election and just handed Rouhani a serious mandate; and 4) they don't want to go back to the way things were.

-id counter argue that their rank and file have no reason to fight for the hated royals ...motivation is key to any forces fighting ability
That said id doubt the houthis would roll over easily to anyone


Well the deal isnt the only juncture for the u.s to easily push back iran.......also id not put much stock in irans elections ,they count for little ina theocracy

 

[Sauron]

Nor should it ..you assume the shia of iraq want iranian domination
Al sadrs comments should hint that isnt the case

I'll clue you in: Iran and Iraq will be allies for a long time.

Iraqi civil society and stability will come in time. During their darkest time they needed Iran's help, and that need will / is receding with each victory as they reclaim their country. For some "dominated by Iran" is dog whistling for opposition to shia political parties. The Saudi's and others really hate the fact that the sunni's lost power in Iraq. They need to accept that things have changed and won't go back to the way things were.

 

[Sauron]

-id counter argue that their rank and file have no reason to fight for the hated royals ...motivation is key to any forces fighting ability

I'm not talking about their army of ISIS recruits here.

I'm talking about their military which is universally lauded as awful.

.......also id not put much stock in irans elections ,they count for little ina theocracy

This is because you don't have much understanding of Iranian politics.

 

[whougonnacall]

I'll clue you in: Iran and Iraq will be allies for a long time.

Iraqi civil society and stability will come in time. During their darkest time they needed Iran's help, and that need will / is receding with each victory as they reclaim their country. For some "dominated by Iran" is dog whistling for opposition to shia political parties. The Saudi's and others really hate the fact that the sunni's lost power in Iraq. They need to accept that things have changed and won't go back to the way things were.

Iraqis pm has just denounced the militas as well as one if its leading clerics ....sorry real life is more complex than you think
Allies yes but they will resist domination

 

[whougonnacall]

I'm not talking about their army of ISIS recruits here.
I'm talking about their military which is universally lauded as awful.

This is because you don't have much understanding of Iranian politics.

Their military is awful as their troops have no reason to die for royals they despise and its design is set up to minimize coup attenpts at the expense of efficency in combat.

Id say the same.about you if you honestly believe in it making a difference or talk of the winner as a 'reformer
http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...esident-isnt-a-reformer-hes-an-enabler-215171'

 

[Videer]

While SDF is creeping ever closer to Raqqa IS fronts are crumbling in eastern/southeastern Aleppo with SAA advancing. Important area to capture as the regime supply line to Aleppo has been severed multiple times and disrupted even more.

 

[Undying Poster]

Do you guys think when ISIS is beaten militarily, that their insurgency will last like al-Qaeda?

 

[Fronk]

Iraqis pm has just denounced the militas as well as one if its leading clerics ....sorry real life is more complex than you think
Allies yes but they will resist domination

What the fuck are talking about. Can you make a coherent actual argument for once? Are you seriously trying to tell us the Iraqi PM have denounced the PMU? What are you trying to say here?

Take your time. Check your spelling. Give sources and names. Try to atleast expand on your delusions.

 

[godking]

Nor should it ..you assume the shia of iraq want iranian domination
Al sadrs comments should hint that isnt the case

The same al sadr who spent years in exile in Iraqn and basically does what Iran tells him to do ?

 

[Videer]

Do you guys think when ISIS is beaten militarily, that their insurgency will last like al-Qaeda?

Yes, they have already partially moved to that phase hiding in the desert along the Iraq - Syria border while launching raids against isolated outposts and checkpoints looting all the valuable stuff and setting everything else on fire.

 

[whougonnacall]

The same al sadr who spent years in exile in Iraqn and basically does what Iran tells him to do ?

Yep that one
Seems hes not as grateful or obedient as they expected
Now secure hes decided to go the patriotic route rather than paid whore.....dangerous choice.