International Isis/syria/iraq thread

[whougonnacall]

whougonnacall strikes me as being Lebanese. West Beirut-Tripoli area Sunni. Seems like the kind of dude who's seen enough shit fucked up by Assad-Iran-Hez in his own backyard that anyone that's against those cats is all right in his book regardless of their bona fides.

Nope not even tanned dude

 

[whougonnacall]

Oh you gotten to? I'm happy to see your Sunni "moderate" brothers obliterated, regardless of who is doing the obliteration (US, Russia, Iran, Hezbollah, SAA or PMU). I don't frequent jihadist websites like you. You know why your Al-Qaeda buddies leave bombs in the fridge? Because they lost Aleppo and basically have no urban centers to hold on to. Otherwise they'd be fighting instead of leaving IEDs behind.

Nobody here believes you, and certainly nobody here believes your Sunni jihadist sob stories. Every reasonable thinker in the West hates your kind, and that's reality. Your entire schistick has been trying to portrait the other side as worse, but we all see through your gimmick. It's been a few years, and you're still fruitlessly trying.

Nope but ur jimmies seem plenty rustled , im guessing another putin fanboy desperate to see people submit to their shirtless hero like u would


As opposed to the retarded narritive that literaly everyone who resists a tyrant must be a foaming at the mouth jihadi because rt today (changed their tune now though) and assad said so ?
That just bombing isis from the air alone will be fine and dandy to remove them ?
That syria needs a ' strongman' ..and somehow that strongman is the guy who cant even hold cities let alone take them without massive airpower and largely foriegn troops now?

 

[whougonnacall]

Russian MoD list of "moderate" groups that have joined the "ceasefire" includes Ahrar and Jaysh al Islam, it is a bizarro world out there.

http://eng.mil.ru/en/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12107227@egNews

Hardly a shocker their narrative of pushing 'everyone vs assad is a terrorist/jihadi' has served its purpose
Now the label changes......welcome to russias hybrid warfare !
The real question will be how agressively turkey and russia enforce this peace.

 

[Orgasmo]

Nope but ur jimmies seem plenty rustled , im guessing another putin fanboy desperate to see people submit to their shirtless hero like u would


As opposed to the retarded narritive that literaly everyone who resists a tyrant must be a foaming at the mouth jihadi because rt today (changed their tune now though) and assad said so ?
That just bombing isis from the air alone will be fine and dandy to remove them ?
That syria needs a ' strongman' ..and somehow that strongman is the guy who cant even hold cities let alone take them without massive airpower and largely foriegn troops now?

Well my jimmies do get rustled by jihadist supporters, and you happen to be their biggest cheerleader since liquidfire got taken away by Montreal police. I will take a Baathist dictator supported by Russia and Iran over your Al-Qaeda buddies propped up by Gulf States any day of the week. Now you do realize you're basically the butt of the joke when it comes to these threads right? Surely you realize nobody here takes your Sunni victimhood narrative seriously?

 

[whougonnacall]

Well my jimmies do get rustled by jihadist supporters, and you happen to be their biggest cheerleader since liquidfire got taken away by Montreal police. I will take a Baathist dictator supported by Russia and Iran over your Al-Qaeda buddies propped up by Gulf States any day of the week. Now you do realize you're basically the butt of the joke when it comes to these threads right? Surely you realize nobody here takes your Sunni victimhood narrative seriously?

So you are against sunni jihadis militas but are for a country run by shia jihadi militas lol ..that sounds stable in a 80% sunni country lol

And no its you dawg....another special little snowflake who cant handle anyone having a different opinion
If you dont like my posts go to your safe space or ignore

 

[Orgasmo]

So you are against sunni jihadis militas but are for a country run by shia jihadi militas lol ..that sounds stable in a 80% sunni country lol

And no its you dawg....another special little snowflake who cant handle anyone having a different opinion
If you dont like my posts go to your safe space or ignore

Shia Muslims are generally less batshit crazy than your Wahabist cousins, so I do prefer them over your kind. They're not currently shooting, blowing up shit and running people over in Europe and North America, unlike your Sunni brothers. Look around the thread and see how many people made fun of your Sunni victimhood narrative, but apparently in your strange twisted world it is I that can't handle it. I'm handling it just fine. In fact, I quite enjoy watching you make a mockery out of yourself. I'll be around for my entertainment for a very long time.

 

[whougonnacall]

Shia Muslims are generally less batshit crazy than your Wahabist cousins, so I do prefer them over your kind. They're not currently shooting, blowing up shit and running people over in Europe and North America, unlike your Sunni brothers. Look around the thread and see how many people made fun of your Sunni victimhood narrative, but apparently in your strange twisted world it is I that can't handle it. I'm handling it just fine. In fact, I quite enjoy watching you make a mockery out of yourself. I'll be around for my entertainment for a very long time.

Yes they are hence the phrase batshit crazy ..generaly when people boil heads or dig up graves to scream at skeletons about hundred year old battles etc they arent well
Yeah about 5 people...id stay indoors petal if 5 people disagreeing with you would make u cry .

 

[Orgasmo]

Yes they are hence the phrase batshit crazy ..generaly when people boil heads or dig up graves to scream at skeletons about hundred year old battles etc they arent well
Yeah about 5 people...id stay indoors petal if 5 people disagreeing with you would make u cry .

Oh they are? When was the last time some Shia committed a major terrorist attack in Europe or North America in the past 15 years? Because I can name a dozen just from your Sunni sect. Muslims in general arent "well", but your Wahabist cousins from the Gulf States are especially scummy. There are plenty of people that find your propaganda hilarious, but don't bother to engage a broken record. Perhaps you should check the thread more carefully if you think it's only "5 people". Since liquidfire got taken by police, you have filled in his shoes quite nicely as the Sherdog resident jihad cheerleader.

 

[whougonnacall]

Oh they are? When was the last time some Shia committed a major terrorist attack in Europe or North America in the past 15 years? Because I can name a dozen just from your Sunni sect. Muslims in general arent "well", but your Wahabist cousins from the Gulf States are especially scummy.
There are plenty of people that find your propaganda hilarious, but don't bother to engage a broken record. Perhaps you should check the thread more carefully if you think it's only "5 people".
Since liquidfire got taken by police, you have filled in his shoes quite nicely as the Sherdog resident jihad cheerleader.

Shia make up a much smaller % of their numbers so thats expected plus weve kept the most famatical at bay with various firewalls vs iran and hezb...now thats over and their death squads are literaly telling us syria is practice for war with nato
Its about 5 broseph and liquidfire was pro isis im all.about wiping isis out as efficently as possible....ud know that if u wernt stupid/trolling or strawmaning

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

so ISIS has another video out apparently a week or so ago. I didn't watch it all, but judging by comments they burnt alive in vivid HD two Turkish military personal and made threats / smack talk with Erdogan.

I don't know if ISIS is still being (covertly?) funded by Turkey, but if not, does that leave Qatar and Saudi Arabia as prime supports of ISIS?

 

[RockstarChris]

So we are funding ISIS and Russia is funding the legitimate government of Syria. And we are the good guys. Hrmmmm.

 

[Zankou]

Shia make up a much smaller % of their numbers so thats expected plus weve kept the most famatical at bay with various firewalls vs iran and hezb...now thats over and their death squads are literaly telling us syria is practice for war with nato
Its about 5 broseph and liquidfire was pro isis im all.about wiping isis out as efficently as possible....ud know that if u wernt stupid/trolling or strawmaning

The ceaseless cries of wolf about Shiite militias haven't made that argument very convincing. They have taken over vast swathes of land from Lebanon through Iraq. They have done this for years. Somehow the Shiite genocides never materialize, unlike those of the Turk and Sunni specialists. They aren't imposing radical Shiite conformity and blowing up Sunni Mosques. Those are Sunni-specific actions. Rebels are almost entirely Sunni, and only sunnis are safe with the rebels.

Shiites are of course just as fanatical in their religion, true, but shiites have not been not brainwashed with rabid gulf takfirism and Wahhabist longings for the days of the prophet. Which is what leads people to exterminate their corrupt apostate neighbors, blowing up their 'polytheist' shrines.

 

[whougonnacall]

The ceaseless cries of wolf about Shiite militias haven't made that argument very convincing. They have taken over vast swathes of land from Lebanon through Iraq. They have done this for years. Somehow the Shiite genocides never materialize, unlike those of the Turk and Sunni specialists. They aren't imposing radical Shiite conformity and blowing up Sunni Mosques. Those are Sunni-specific actions. Rebels are almost entirely Sunni, and only sunnis are safe with the rebels.

Shiites are of course just as fanatical in their religion, true, but shiites have not been not brainwashed with rabid gulf takfirism and Wahhabist longings for the days of the prophet. Which is what leads people to exterminate their corrupt apostate neighbors, blowing up their 'polytheist' shrines.

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2016/country-chapters/iraq
Took like 5 secs on google mate
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-re...ilitias-have-carried-out-mass-revenge-attacks

 

[Zankou]

Yeah, not genocide. Compare what happened when the Sunnis swept into power -- in that exact same region ... and it's night and day.

Particularly since most of the people killed were jihadi combatants. They aren't killed as part of a Shiite takfir program analogous to the Sunni program. Or as the article says, "highlights widespread revenge attacks and discrimination faced by Sunni Arabs suspected of being complicit in ISIS crimes or of supporting the group."

Ideally you'd have the ISIS combatants hauled out and tried in a court of law, rather than identified by Shiite militias. Obviously. But there's no operative courts of law in Sunni Jihadistan, apart from ISIS Shariah courts. The men fleeing in columns from Mosul are fleeing because they are collaborators retreating to their ISIS-held strongholds; they know that once ISIS loses its grip, they are fucked, having tied themselves to the wrong horse.

As I've said from the start, this is the basic problem with 'freeing' Mosul---much of the population in Jihadistan is rabidly pro-ISIS, and is fighting to aid it, so the idea that it's just going to convert into a peaceful regime-controlled city once it is 'freed from its oppressors' is delusional. Jihadistan can only be ruled as an imperial territory, under the thumb of the 'civilized' urban regimes of Assad/Baghdad, or else partitioned off. Which is what should happen.

 

[whougonnacall]

Yeah, not genocide. Compare what happened when the Sunnis swept into power -- in that exact same region ... and it's night and day.
Particularly since most of the people killed were jihadi combatants. They aren't killed as part of a Shiite takfir program analogous to the Sunni program. Or as the article says, "highlights widespread revenge attacks and discrimination faced by Sunni Arabs suspected of being complicit in ISIS crimes or of supporting the group."

Ideally you'd have the ISIS combatants hauled out and tried in a court of law, rather than identified by Shiite militias. Obviously. But there's no operative courts of law in Sunni Jihadistan, apart from ISIS Shariah courts. The men fleeing in columns from Mosul are fleeing because they are collaborators retreating to their ISIS-held strongholds; they know that once ISIS loses its grip, they are fucked, having tied themselves to the wrong horse.

As I've said from the start, this is the basic problem with 'freeing' Mosul---much of the population in Jihadistan is rabidly pro-ISIS, and is fighting to aid it, so the idea that it's just going to convert into a peaceful regime-controlled city once it is 'freed from its oppressors' is delusional. Jihadistan can only be ruled as an imperial territory, under the thumb of the 'civilized' urban regimes of Assad/Baghdad, or else partitioned off. Which is what should happen.

Burning towns to the ground and killing all semi military aged men and boys nearby isnt genocide now?
The people those militas are killing are civilians dude , they are fleeing death.
The idea that isis is beloved in mosul is also warped given what we.know of their brutal treatment to even the whisp of rebellion ....shit look at what happened suspected isis members in liberated areas ..tell me the public love the men they lynched

The assad or sadam option isnt on the table (ones dead the others now basicaly just the mayor of damasus at irans suffering) and partition isnt acceptabe to anyone anymore (apart from the kurds who everyone is set to fuck hard unfortunatly)

 

[Zankou]

Everybody's always a civilian when the enemy is about to take over the land. That's how it has always been in the region. Nobody puts on uniforms and openly admits to being a supporter of the enemy, much less an enemy combatant. Unfortunately this practice of intentionally exploiting civilian identity makes everybody a suspect. That's not new to this combat, it's a pervasive feature of all combat in the region, and has been for decades. Disgusting, yes, but not new.

What people find 'acceptable' hardly matters since this maelstrom of battling zealots has no common ground that is mutually acceptable. Partition of Jihadistan is already de facto, thanks to ISIS, and whether it's made de jure or not probably has little significance. The best possible outcome that could be hoped for is that Jihadistan is nominally made part of Iraq and Syria again, even though on the ground it will remain even more autonomous, and zealot-filled, than equivalent regions in Pakistan and Afghanistan. It is also going to be starved of the tax base and economic prosperity of the national centers. That's just reality. National unity is dead, dead, and shall I repeat myself, dead. As you say, the days of imperial dominance are over. But for that exact reason, partition is here to stay, like it or not.

 

[whougonnacall]

Everybody's always a civilian when the enemy is about to take over the land. That's how it has always been in the region. Nobody puts on uniforms and openly admits to being a supporter of the enemy, much less an enemy combatant. Unfortunately this practice of intentionally exploiting civilian identity makes everybody a suspect. That's not new to this combat, it's a pervasive feature of all combat in the region, and has been for decades. Disgusting, yes, but not new.

What people find 'acceptable' hardly matters since this maelstrom of battling zealots has no common ground that is mutually acceptable. Partition of Jihadistan is already de facto, thanks to ISIS, and whether it's made de jure or not probably has little significance. The best possible outcome that could be hoped for is that Jihadistan is nominally made part of Iraq and Syria again, even though on the ground it will remain even more autonomous, and zealot-filled, than equivalent regions in Pakistan and Afghanistan. It is also going to be starved of the tax base and economic prosperity of the national centers. That's just reality. National unity is dead, dead, and shall I repeat myself, dead. As you say, the days of imperial dominance are over. But for that exact reason, partition is here to stay, like it or not.

Slaughtering thousands ina n area cause a handful may have some isis connection isnt just immoral its counterproductive
Accpetable isnt the thing anymore its whats practical when it comes to stomping them out ......we have learnd the hard way lessons in counterinsurgency and applying them has helped push isis back

 

[xcvbn]

Had to ignore the native Salfist/Wahhabi sympathizer. Guy is a fucking lunatic and too much of a pussy to go strap on his Wahhabi vest and obtain his 72 12-year olds.

 

[Videer]

New year celebrations in Latakia include a lot of tracers, I'll just assume that they are smart enough to be firing towards the Mediterranean.

https://www.periscope.tv/w/1LyGBwDAgAjJN

Elsewhere Jihadi clerics are pushing hard for Ahrar and bigger groups to merge with terrorist organisation formerly known as al Nusra.

so ISIS has another video out apparently a week or so ago. I didn't watch it all, but judging by comments they burnt alive in vivid HD two Turkish military personal and made threats / smack talk with Erdogan.

I don't know if ISIS is still being (covertly?) funded by Turkey, but if not, does that leave Qatar and Saudi Arabia as prime supports of ISIS?

No, no and no.

 

[z_zen]

Happy New Years! Here's hoping lots more ISIS POS die this year than last.