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Bravo sir
She’s a redhead actually, it’s hilarious the amount of women I know who say that chart is true
Is Woodley-Maia disheartening for you BJJ guys?
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She’s a redhead actually, it’s hilarious the amount of women I know who say that chart is true
In a battle between the best BJJ guy and the best wrestler it's the one with the better striking that wins. This fight didn't show wrestling being better than BJJ since I didn't see any wrestling takedowns or rides from Woodley. I mean, it's hardly news that BJJ alone won't make you a UFC champ.
My logic is very simple; Maia is three times better and more accomplished in his respective field than Woodley is in his. And he still got nowhere.
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For me, not really. Maia is almost a pure BJJ specialist competing in a sport that requires you have a much more diverse skill set. He’s been around for years and has simply not improved his striking or wrestling enough. He’s like a track star who decides he can play football without learning to catch a ball or run routes.
Woodley on the other hand, started as a wrestler of course, but now has a complete MMA game.
I have no doubt that Maia would win a BJJ match against Woodley.
Woodley on the other hand, started as a wrestler of course, but now has a complete MMA game.
I have no doubt that Maia would win a BJJ match against Woodley.
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Hard to compare the skill between BJJ and wrestling. In wrestling a lot more people have elite skills. In BJJ there I would say a lot less then 30 guys per each weight class that are truly proficient.
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That’s not logic, Bjj is relatively easier to get world titles in simply from a number of participants aspect alone. You’re trolling is slipping
Your logic is retarded. Number of participants and talent pool are separate things. You could have a massive amount of mediocre grapplers attracted to world BJJ events or a select, but highly talented group.
I’m a dude but this chart has been largely accurate in my experience.
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It is for sure
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They are the same but different, for a host of reasons. Your trolling is weak this time around. You can do better
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Another brilliant spacetime troll job.
No it isn't. The strength of an era, be it Boxing, BJJ or Karate is not dependent on number of participants. The strongest era in Boxing did not have the biggest number of competitors.
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I never talked about “era” and
Wrestling has a vastly much higher number of high level participants than Bjj, by high level I mean they train full time or close to it. They have elite level coaching and the level of the non medalists or all Americans is still extremely high. Every year there are national or world level people that don’t place or you don’t know about. I had a coach who beat Woodley multiple times in college.. you’ve never heard of him. That doesn’t happen in Bjj. You also see more medalists that come from different places than the top 3 schools
For every full time, high Bjj competitor in a bracket at worlds, there’s probably at least 2-5 non full-time or hobbyist type competitors in that same bracket. The best guys come out of only 3-4 gyms and the overall participation numbers are lower.
That being said, you can’t really make the argument Maia is “3x” more accomplished or whatever
Because Woodley becoming an All American in the weight class he did at the time he did. Very likely required him to beat as many or more high level opponents as Maia did to win Bjj “worlds”
Stop being deliberately obtuse
Maia should have learned Gracie Jujitsu! 
BJJ Black Belt’s Point Of View: Why Jiu-Jitsu Is Not Suitable For Street Fighting
"Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is absolutely not suitable for street fighting …
I will use several personal examples to support my point.
To begin with, let’s look at the difference between modern Jiu-Jitsu and the more traditional schools."
"Indeed, the traditional school of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu was more suited to street fighting than the current school, not only because it was taught as a valuable method of self-defense, coming from Japanese Ju-Jitsu, but also because the study of throws/takedowns was more present."
"Indeed, in the vast majority of current Jiu-Jitsu clubs in addition to the almost systematic neglect of the study of Self Defense, the teaching of takedowns and throws is often extremely minimalist."
"The main reason is the development of competitions which make practitioners focus on the essence of our sport, ground fighting.
This is a mistake, even for Jiu-Jitsu competition and overall study of a discipline"
BJJ Black Belt’s Point Of View: Why Jiu-Jitsu Is Not Suitable For Street Fighting
"Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is absolutely not suitable for street fighting …
I will use several personal examples to support my point.
To begin with, let’s look at the difference between modern Jiu-Jitsu and the more traditional schools."
"Indeed, the traditional school of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu was more suited to street fighting than the current school, not only because it was taught as a valuable method of self-defense, coming from Japanese Ju-Jitsu, but also because the study of throws/takedowns was more present."
"Indeed, in the vast majority of current Jiu-Jitsu clubs in addition to the almost systematic neglect of the study of Self Defense, the teaching of takedowns and throws is often extremely minimalist."
"The main reason is the development of competitions which make practitioners focus on the essence of our sport, ground fighting.
This is a mistake, even for Jiu-Jitsu competition and overall study of a discipline"
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OK, so if I'm understanding you right......Maia was a great practitioner of "X" competing against a really good practitioner of "Y" in sport "Z" and didn't do as well as he used to do in sport "X."
Do you see how the logic doesn't quite work?
So one BJJ guy said that BJJ is superior to wrestling? Another MMA fighter with a BJJ base lost an MMA fight to another MMA fighter with a wrestling base? So that an effect on what this guy said? As well as all BJJ participants?
Got it.
Don't you see how humilating this is? Tyron Woodley is not even Olympic Level wrestler. Replace Woodley with someone like Khadzhimural Gatsalov (say that fast 5 times) and Maia would get tossed around the cage like a doll.
Just because Woodley is a pussy who doesn't even want to try and slam Maia, doesn't mean others wouldn't.
