is turinabol the worst steroid to take?

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  1. Drain Bamage

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    I keep reading that is old steroids, slow acting, doesnt do much, is expensive etc etc


    Why the fuck would anybody take it then?
     
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    Maybe he thought an outdated steroid would have a higher chance of going undetected. Also it is one of the few steroids that does not convert to estrogen. Last time Jones tested positive it was for estrogen blockers, which are used for blocking the estrogen that most steroids convert to. Seems Jones wanted to eliminate the need to use estrogen blockers so he wouldn't pop for them again.
     
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    No, it's an oral steroid that is non-aromatizing. It increases strength, endurance and recovery and it protects lean muscle mass during weight cutting. It clears the body in a day or so. Just what you might expect Jones would be taking. (Except he didn't know about the new metabolite test that can detect it weeks later.)
     
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    Even I know it works

    It has a bunch of Olympic gold medlas to its name
     
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    The "it's old outdated" is part of the damage control that jones team is feeding the media "it doesn't make sense why would he take it , it's illegal, it's out dated, it's a test he knew about"

    It works is why he took it, I'm not a steroid rocket scientist but I think the testing is relatively new and (maybe) it's what the recent Olympics athletes have been getting popped for when they retested samples
     
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    Who told you tbol didn't do anything?

    TBol most certainly does a lot.
     
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    Nah, It's great, I added about 10 pounds with it, kept 6.
     
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    Old stuff is always the best!. if its made in 1970's and from Russia and the eastern block as they say it is.. then its sure to make you strong as a Bear !!.
     
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    It's one of the newer oral compounds as opposed to dbol, anadrol, Winstrol and anavar

    It's not a bad drug, it's basically a lighter version of dbol...less bloating and less hepatoxic. It's good for strength and some lean mass gain, but I wouldn't be popping that shit on fight night due to the insane muscle pumps and cramping.
     
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    Most steroids are "old". Even the "newer" steroids like superdrol were just pharma rejects developed decades ago that never were approved for commercial use and were brought back from the dead by underground labs. These hormones are actually pretty toxic to the liver or have other nasty side effects that kept them from being released commercially.
     
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    No, it's a massive advantage to take the steroid. Jones is a gigantic fucking cheater and everyone knows it.

    I can't believe people even entertain the idea that a fuck up on Jon Jones level could be innocent. It's both terrifying and hilarious.
     
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    If he wanted to get caught why did he not take
    something that was more current since it would
    at least look better on his behalf with the good
    stuff in his system.
     
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    It's the Michael Jordan of steroids
     
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    http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/w...itamins-cycle-related.3620335/#post-133907381

    The point the guy on schaubs podcast was making makes much more sense
    Jon took a powerful "prework" steroid(i.e. cheque drops) that has a short enough half life that it would leave his system before he took the post fight drug test......buttttt his gear was tainted with turinabol hence why the weird lack of the drugs presence in his body leading up to and before the fight but not after

    Everybody just wants to make the very simple excuse that Jones ia moron and did a moron thing.....when he really he's most likely been successfully microdosing his gear and having his chewable aspirin ready in case USADA comes.......
    up until recently that is

    Same thing with Mir (who popped for tbol)
    The guy comes off as a knowledgeable and intelligent(relating to his professional field) guy

    So I highly doubt Mir would take a steroid that he knows the half life would be too long
    to successfully avoid a post fight test....more likely he was inadvertently the victim of tainted drugs he took for the pre fight boost
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    I sure as hell know which one of these STEROIDS i would take before a professional fight if I wanted an edge

    https://www.steroid.com/Cheque-Drops.php

    OR

    https://www.steroidal.com/steroid-profiles/turinabol/


    And I'm sure Jon and Mir do too
     
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    Either that or he his buddy got the wrong stuff when he was across the border in Mexico.
     
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    Its not tgat expensive. Plus it adds a nice dopamine infused rush similar to test sublinguals, due to the neurological effects.. This happens immediately.

    I equate the gains to slightly better than var, and anabolic effects are about 2 weeks after.

    That's empirical yo.
     
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    Actually I messed this up. In the 90s and early 2000s supplement companies used to brand these hormones as "mass builders"/etc. These were originally the companies that resuscitated them. Since the laws against controlled substances ban the actual hormones themselves and not steroids as a class, what they were doing at the time wasn't illegal. Superdrol wasn't illegal until like 4 or 5 years ago and was sold on Amazon...lol. We're talking an incredibly liver toxic drug that puts on 15-20 pounds of lean mass in a month with Prime shipping.
     

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