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Is "Thug" a racist word?

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  1. Phelly2 Purple Belt

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    I would guess that if "thug" refers more to a black person, that's because "thug life" is a black thing.

    See above the many, many black rappers who glorify being a "thug". I have not seen any white artists (except for the Eminem type) who refer to themselves as thugs.
     
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  2. PrinceOfPain Silver Belt

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    And thus you have built in a way to dismiss opinions you don't agree with.
    'Grats.
     
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  3. Thundarr Brown Belt

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    Thug is a term used to describe behavior not aesthetics, therefore race is irrelevant.
     
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  4. DM1982 Purple Belt

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    Language is important, and although, rightly, there are words we can't and shouldn't use to describe people/behaviour we don't like, we should be able to express ourselves freely.

    I don't think 'thug' is racist but I do think it is basically used to describe an African-American up to no good.


    lol when Tony Ferguson said to Kevin Lee 'I'll beat you like the thug you are'.

    To clarify, I think Kevin Lee is a nice young man and an asset to the UFC and possible future champ.
     
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  5. HIMBOB Steel Belt

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    Not in Australia.

    Well I never thought so at least.

    Best way to tell is watch out for the next few ways you see it used.
     
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  6. RIPWarrior Black Belt

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    Due to the fact that minorities commit a lot of crime, it's considered racist. They only commit so much crime because white people are racist. So there you go.
     
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  7. HIMBOB Steel Belt

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    Quick someone (not on a phone) do a search on the most recent use of the word thug on sherdog before this article was posted.

    Would tell you what you need to know.
     
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  8. sub_thug Red Belt

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    Case in point. We are good.
     
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  9. PrinceOfPain Silver Belt

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    So... Racists?

    No, "sometimes" is not the correct answer unless you're a race-baiting asshole looking to sabotage conversation by fabricating intent on behalf of your opponents because you can't handle honest exchanges.
     
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  10. Overpressure Steel Belt

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    My opinion, this is the same type of fucked up word policing that led to a man getting shit for correctly an unracially using the word :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:rdly about twenty years back.
     
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  11. Overpressure Steel Belt

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    See? It's a legit word that the autocensor thinks is bad because nobody knows their own fucking language anymore.
     
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  12. Liquid Smoke I can rest my balls on your forehead.

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    And if Elon Musk gets his way that same autocensor will get its driver's license.
    Time to just stay home and get your beers delivered by drones.
     
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  13. Jackie Blue Black Belt

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    It's not inherently racist. It's become racialized in recent years to some extent. Initially due to black rappers like 2pac promoting and popularizing thug life and then some white racists used it as a code word. I think we should be able to use discretion and take it on a case by case basis.

    Unfortunately, zero tolerance policy doesn't really allow for that. If a white teacher refers to black students in general as thugs, that could be a clear sign of racial bias and potentially actionable by the school. However if a white teacher is merely reacting to actual thuggish behavior from an individual or small group of black students, we should be able to denote that distinction and act accordingly.
     
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    With all due respect, that works both ways. ;)
     
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    This is true. But on the flip side are white racists who are more worried about being called racists than addressing their actual racist beliefs and actions.
     
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  16. Rational Poster Ascended Super Liberal

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    It depends on the context.

    Oh paper, no it's not, but the way it's used in media and particularly right wing media it is.
     
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  17. Slick_36 Waabishkizi Bizhiki

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    I understand that, but there's not been any studies or anything on this so we can't use numbers to prove anything either way. It's pretty obviously used one sidedly in the news though, if not, this thread wouldn't exist or no one would have an argument for this. I'm extremely fucking politically incorrect, I'm a HUGE proponent for free speech and get in trouble for exercising that pretty often. I keep saying thug is fine in the common lexicon, it's that it's used as code in the news for "violent black guy" rather than just a violent person. If people are fine with that, then it is what it is, I have to accept that.
     
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  18. Brodels Purple Belt

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    Trayvon was a thug
     
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  19. Brodels Purple Belt

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    Maybe these idiots should stop promoting "Thug Life" and creating rap song about thugs? Anyone thought of this simple solution?
     
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  20. Slick_36 Waabishkizi Bizhiki

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    It's that kind of thinking that has everyone defensive and so vehemently against actually considering the possibility. You're not racist for using the word thug, the danger here to me is that the media is changing what comes to mind when you hear it.
     
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